From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/42055 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: fonts (in luatex) (again) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:25:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <441B3D72-7906-465D-881E-2A821D1CBFC5@di.unito.it> <1214675743.7122.23.camel@elbereth> <82AFE03A-ADC3-452A-9D96-5E4877B52C9E@di.unito.it> <48694AEA.6020900@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1072492247==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215005253 4184 80.91.229.12 (2 Jul 2008 13:27:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:27:33 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jul 02 15:28:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KE2NY-0005yl-Ts for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:28:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D64E1FE57; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:27:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00366-07-2; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:26:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ABE1FE50; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:26:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77661FE50 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:26:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00342-06-2 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:25:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pianeta.di.unito.it (pianeta.di.unito.it [130.192.156.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812E41FE4F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:25:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d81-211-247-164.cust.tele2.it [81.211.247.164]) by pianeta.di.unito.it (INFO-DIP) with ESMTP id m62DPQfS028022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO userCertificateDN= AuthenticatedUser=valle ) for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:25:27 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <48694AEA.6020900@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-dipinfo-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Department of Computer Science technical staff for more information X-AntiVirus: Scanned for viruses by VirusFinder @2001-tecnici@di.unito.it - Email Clean X-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-102.498, required 3.5, autolearn=not spam, AUTHENTICATEDUSER -100.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-MailScanner-From: valle@di.unito.it X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:42055 Archived-At: --===============1072492247== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-13-474723518 --Apple-Mail-13-474723518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thanks Hans before trying again with Wolfgang's example, I was curious to know. Is there something broken regarding font selection in luatex? I thought so. Just not to invest all the afternoon with no hopes...:) Best -a- On 30 Jun 2008, at 23:06, Hans Hagen wrote: > Andrea Valle wrote: >> Thanks Charles >> >> A praise from the heart to the devs. >> Wouldn't be possibile to support font selection like in XeTeX? >> This would make thing really a lot easier for sublunar users like me. >> >> Really, the whole process it's damn' complicated: no one a part 2 =20 >> or 3 >> seems to know the details :) > > depends on where you come from ... > > \font\whatever=3Dsomename > > should kind of work in luatex > > anyhow, the main idea behind the context font system is that one =20 > creates > combinations with symbolic names and then can use those names also > elsewhere (e.g. using SerifBold when defining a titlepage); if you =20 > don't > use math and just one style, definitions are real simple, but in > practice you define a combination (serif/sans, mono, math) > > you can predefine such a set, give it a name, and then reuse it for > every document you want; there are a few examples of such typescripts > > \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] > > \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt] > > less commands make no sense > > any systems takes time to get accustomed to and tex is somewhat > complicated by the fact that math definitions are part of the game as > well as that we might want to conbine fonts. > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/=20 > ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) --Apple-Mail-13-474723518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks = Hans

before trying again with Wolfgang's example, I = was curious to know.
Is there something broken regarding font = selection in luatex?
I thought so.
Just not to = invest all the afternoon with no = hopes...:)

Best

-a-



On 30 Jun 2008, at = 23:06, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:
Thanks Charles

A praise = from the heart to the devs.
Wouldn't be = possibile to support font selection like in XeTeX?
This would make thing really a lot easier for = sublunar users like me.

Really, the whole process it's = damn' complicated: no one a part 2 or 3=A0
seems to = know the details :)

depends on where you come from = ...

\font\whatever=3Dsomename<with xetex = spec>

should kind of work in luatex

anyhow, = the main idea behind the context font system is that one creates=A0
=A0
elsewhere (e.g. using SerifBold when defining a = titlepage); if you don't=A0
use math = and just one style, definitions are real simple, but in=A0
practice = you define a combination (serif/sans, mono, math)

you can = predefine such a set, give it a name, and then reuse it for=A0
every = document you want; there are a few examples of such = typescripts

\usetypescript[palatino][texnansi]


less commands make no = sense

any systems takes time to get accustomed to and tex = is somewhat=A0
complicated by the fact that math definitions are = part of the game as=A0
well as = that we might want to conbine fonts.

Hans

=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
=A0 =A0 =A0 = tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 | www.pragma-pod.nl
If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist = : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as = seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. = F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. = F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on = noise)




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