From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/76447 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note? 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The auto alignment of the marginals has to be improved, but the rest looks already quite decent. >> >> Please see: https://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2303165&fileOId=2303168 >> >> for a full sample document. > > Nice work! Decent and nice design, good typesetting, I assume some hand work which of course cannot be avoided to make the result pleasing. > thank you for the positive feedback. The example thesis has a lot of hand work. However, in the end I would like to have something that looks 95% instead of 100%, but fully automatic. Then, I could output the same text in different output formats (book, handouts for every chapter, e-reader, ...), tweaking every file would cost too much time. > Just two remarks to the layout. Figure descriptions set in to the block (narrow column) produces too large spaces in the lines often. Ragged text would suit it better, I think. Seven Thesis were made, so far, and everyone plays a little with the overall design to see how things look when tweaked a little. But justified is not ideal, I agree. > > Side notes set ragged left (rigth justyfied) on left pages are quite difficult to read, I would make them ragged right (left justified) on all pages and. I guess you want to say [...] it would [not] break the overall design at all ;) I like the look of ragged outer when just looking at a double page from far. It does make reading more difficult. I still cannot decide. In the end legibility should be more important, so ragged right is better like you said. > > Just wondering, why is Optima-Regular embeded so many times? We wanted to have a sans serif font for the viewgraphs that matches the Palatino (orig. 1948). So we went for Optima (1952-1955 and also from Hermann Zapf). Wikipedia says "Optima's capitals (like Palatino's) are directly derived from the classic Roman monumental capital model [...]". I think, it does look good together. We also wanted a TeX Gyre font as main font, so that it is available on every system. > > Regards, > > Jano Aditya Mahajan contextified the github sources. It might be good to download the new stuff. Thanks for the help. Andy > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________