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[84.186.246.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hg13sm232184bkc.7.2012.08.21.00.04.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:04:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.214.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0VHNj4Aea - 314fff41a9c1 - 20120821 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:77959 Archived-At: Am 21.08.2012 um 08:42 schrieb Mojca Miklavec : > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote: >> Hi all, >> = >> The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX >> Live are quite different things. >> = >> MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current >> MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki >> MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?) > = > Usually it works better if you CC me since there are a lot of emails I > recently skip reading (based on subject). > = >> 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca >> puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible. > = > It was Hans who has put the work into it, but I don't know why he > didn't release a public "current" release. I applied some minor > patches over 2012.05.29 based on later ConTeXt version, so it's not > *exactly* that version, but I had no idea what to do about the date. > = > I have no idea how Hans uploads current versions, but I could make a > zip, upload it to CTAN and make it available as current in minimals. > (If I forget to do that in less than a week, please remind me.) > = >> 3. Is there a list of past stable versions somewhere? > = > Probably the best answer would be the (unofficial) git repository: > http://gitorious.org/context/context > I also have a repository on > https://github.com/mojca/context > It's not updated though - I update from gitorious from time to time, > but not automatically. I tried to make sure that even the oldest > version have some consistency. > = >> I can't find >> one, and without it the ability to go to a specific stable version >> with >> `sh ./first-setup.sh --context=3Ddate` seems a bit useless. (Can't >> really imagine a use in general, though.) > = > http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/ > = > Some time ago a new stable version came out at least once per week and > betas were rare, for testing features. I think that we asked Hans not > to release "current" versions with testing features so often, so that > people don't end up with broken ConTeXt. As a consequence he started > releasing betas with that pace, but sadly he forgets to release > current versions every now and then :( > = > But anyway, manually interfering and making sure that the same version > as in TeX Live ends up in minimals (and on the wiki) would not be such > a bad idea. > = >> 4. (Less important.) context.mkiv defines \contextversion as e.g. >> `2012.08.11 14:11`, but \contextversionnumber in mult-ini.mkiv still >> prepends a zero to the month or day. (It checks whether 08 < 10, which >> is true even if the leading zero is present.) This causes the extra >> zeros you saw in the version numbers above. Can this be changed >> without breakage ensuing? > = > That's for Hans or Wolfgang =85 \ifx\contextversion\undefined \def\contextversion {unknown} \def\contextversionnumber{0} \else %\def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10 0\fi#2\ifnu= m#3<10 0\fi#3 #4:#5} \def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10 0\fi\purenumbe= r{#2}\ifnum#3<10 0\fi\purenumber{#3} #4:#5} \edef\contextversionnumber{\expandafter\contextversionnumber\contextver= sion\relax\space\contextmark} \fi \starttext \contextversionnumber \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________