* 4000 pages limit?
@ 2010-12-16 19:12 Marco Pessotto
2010-12-16 19:31 ` luigi scarso
2010-12-16 23:04 ` Jonas Stein
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From: Marco Pessotto @ 2010-12-16 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello there.
Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space))
It's easily reproducible with a simple
\starttext
\dorecurse{50000}{
\input knuth
}
Once it reaches page 4000 it will die.
I'm obviously going to split the document, because a pdf of 4000 pages
is just insane, but now I'm curious if this is a known limit.
Bests
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-16 19:12 4000 pages limit? Marco Pessotto
@ 2010-12-16 19:31 ` luigi scarso
2010-12-17 8:43 ` Hans Hagen
2010-12-16 23:04 ` Jonas Stein
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-12-16 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Marco Pessotto <melmothx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello there.
>
> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
>
> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space))
>
> It's easily reproducible with a simple
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{50000}{
> \input knuth
> }
Confirmed
\starttext
\dorecurse{50000}{
\input knuth
}\stoptext
die with
pages > flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-16 19:12 4000 pages limit? Marco Pessotto
2010-12-16 19:31 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-12-16 23:04 ` Jonas Stein
2010-12-17 6:52 ` luigi scarso
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From: Jonas Stein @ 2010-12-16 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
>
> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space))
>
> It's easily reproducible with a simple
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{50000}{
> \input knuth
> }
>
> Once it reaches page 4000 it will die.
i could run this
\starttext
\dorecurse{50000}{narf \page}
\stoptext
==
pdfTeX warning: pdftex: no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet!
Output written on test.pdf (50000 pages, 10574005 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
TeXExec | runtime: 310.679998
==
and got 50000 pages in one pdf.
Okular is quite slow in opening it and needs 200 MB RAM, but it works.
But i could not use Ctrl-C to break the loop.
I think that is a bug, or not?
i use this context:
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/context
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-16 23:04 ` Jonas Stein
@ 2010-12-17 6:52 ` luigi scarso
2010-12-17 9:30 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-12-17 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jonas Stein <news@jonasstein.de> wrote:
>> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
>> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
>>
>> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space))
>>
>> It's easily reproducible with a simple
>>
>> \starttext
>> \dorecurse{50000}{
>> \input knuth
>> }
\starttext
\dorecurse{50000}{
\input knuth
}\stoptext
also fails after page [1619.1619]) with
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=1254582].
> i could run this
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{50000}{narf \page}
> \stoptext
pdftex is ok
luatex fails with
pages > flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
stack space))
> I think that is a bug, or not?
yes, I think so.
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-16 19:31 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-12-17 8:43 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-12-17 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 16-12-2010 8:31, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Marco Pessotto<melmothx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there.
>>
>> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
>> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
>>
>> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space))
>>
>> It's easily reproducible with a simple
>>
>> \starttext
>> \dorecurse{50000}{
>> \input knuth
>> }
> Confirmed
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{50000}{
> \input knuth
> }\stoptext
> die with
>
> pages> flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987
> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
> stack space))
its hard to figure out where it happens so probably taco has to run a
variant with debugging on; maybe a core luatex function is not cleaning
up the stack
Hans
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 6:52 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-12-17 9:30 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-12-17 9:44 ` Vedran Miletić
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-12-17 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 12/17/2010 07:52 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jonas Stein<news@jonasstein.de> wrote:
>>> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
>>> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
>>>
>>> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space))
>>>
>>> It's easily reproducible with a simple
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \dorecurse{50000}{
>>> \input knuth
>>> }
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{50000}{
> \input knuth
> }\stoptext
> also fails after page [1619.1619]) with
> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=1254582].
That is mkii, right? (I am not interested in that)
> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
> stack space))
>
>> I think that is a bug, or not?
> yes, I think so.
Yes it was a bug, fixed in the luatex source repository now.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 9:30 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-12-17 9:44 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-12-17 9:49 ` Martin Schröder
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2010-12-17 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/12/17 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>
> On 12/17/2010 07:52 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jonas Stein<news@jonasstein.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000
>>>> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a
>>>>
>>>> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
>>>> stack space))
>>>>
>>>> It's easily reproducible with a simple
>>>>
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \dorecurse{50000}{
>>>> \input knuth
>>>> }
>>>>
>>> \starttext
>> \dorecurse{50000}{
>> \input knuth
>> }\stoptext
>> also fails after page [1619.1619]) with
>> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=1254582].
>>
>
> That is mkii, right? (I am not interested in that)
>
>
> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of
>> stack space))
>>
>> I think that is a bug, or not?
>>>
>> yes, I think so.
>>
>
> Yes it was a bug, fixed in the luatex source repository now.
>
How high is the limit now? Just curious, since I saw LuaTeX building _a
paragraph_ lasting few hundred pages without problems (on the other hand,
pdfTeX couldn't do it).
Regards,
Vedran Miletić
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 9:44 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2010-12-17 9:49 ` Martin Schröder
2010-12-17 10:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-12-17 10:05 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2010-12-17 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/12/17 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com>:
> How high is the limit now? Just curious, since I saw LuaTeX building _a
> paragraph_ lasting few hundred pages without problems (on the other hand,
> pdfTeX couldn't do it).
Which limit? For the simple knuth case most likely the size of your harddisk
is the limit (iff luatex can generate PDFs >4GB :). And you'll get problems
with pdfs with millions of objects (i.e. pages), as readers can't cope with
them.
Best
Martin
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 9:44 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-12-17 9:49 ` Martin Schröder
@ 2010-12-17 10:05 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-12-17 10:17 ` Martin Schröder
2010-12-17 10:08 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-12-17 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 12/17/2010 10:44 AM, Vedran Miletić wrote:
>
> How high is the limit now?
There is nothing hardcoded anywhere, but I suspect that after a few
million pages some limit somewhere will be reached eventually: either
the harddisk gets full, or your pdf reader will be unable to open the
pdf due to its internal limits (luatex will happily create 10GB pdfs).
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 9:49 ` Martin Schröder
@ 2010-12-17 10:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-12-17 10:18 ` Martin Schröder
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-12-17 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Schröder; +Cc: ntg-context
On Friday 17 December 2010 10:49:27 Martin Schröder wrote:
> And you'll get problems with pdfs with millions of objects (i.e. pages), as
readers can't cope with them.
Which readers: do you refer to computer programs or to humans?
(This is what Herbert Simon calls bounded rationality.)
Alan
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 9:44 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-12-17 9:49 ` Martin Schröder
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@ 2010-12-17 10:08 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-12-17 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 17-12-2010 10:44, Vedran Miletić wrote:
> How high is the limit now? Just curious, since I saw LuaTeX building _a
> paragraph_ lasting few hundred pages without problems (on the other hand,
> pdfTeX couldn't do it).
I've done tests with tens of thousands of pages with mkiv with no
problem so there must be something special going on now.
Hans
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 10:05 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-12-17 10:17 ` Martin Schröder
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2010-12-17 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/12/17 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>:
> pdf due to its internal limits (luatex will happily create 10GB pdfs).
The code allows ca. 1TB; that should be enough for everyone (I hope I don't live
to see the day that it isn't :).
Best
Martin
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* Re: 4000 pages limit?
2010-12-17 10:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-12-17 10:18 ` Martin Schröder
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2010-12-17 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/12/17 Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>:
> Which readers: do you refer to computer programs or to humans?
Programs. You'll hit implementation limits in Adobe Reader.
Best
Martin
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