* Re: Failure to Install minimals on iBook G3
@ 2010-10-19 21:15 Robert Blackstone
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Robert Blackstone @ 2010-10-19 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Thank you, Arthur and Mojca, for your quick and clear response.
It is probably not worth bothering for this particular machine. I have
access to the minimals on several other Macs (including a much older,
not to say ancient PowerMac G4, also on Tiger). So I'm not
particularly needy in this respect.
I rescued this iBook from a garbage dump, in fact there were two of
them, both defect, from which I have been able to make one working
machine, and I just thought that it would have been nice to have
ConTeXt-minimals on it.
But it is puzzling. I never had any problems with two other PPC Macs,
so what makes this one essentially different? (No answer needed.)
Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Failure to Install minimals on iBook G3
@ 2010-10-19 16:27 Robert Blackstone
2010-10-19 16:44 ` Arthur Reutenauer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Robert Blackstone @ 2010-10-19 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello,
I tried in vain to install the minimals on an old (2003) but still
functional iBook G3, running under OSX 10.4.11. After having received
some 4MB, I get the message: "dyld: incompatible cpu-subtype" plus a
reference to line 103 of first-setup.sh.
Does anybody on this list know what could be done about this. Btw,
this iBook can handle TeX and ConTeXt. I installed MacTeX 2009 and
everything works. But I would prefer the minimals.
Thanks in advance.
Robert Blackstone
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Failure to Install minimals on iBook G3
2010-10-19 16:27 Robert Blackstone
@ 2010-10-19 16:44 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2010-10-19 16:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2010-10-19 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hello Robert,
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 06:27:44PM +0200, Robert Blackstone wrote:
> I tried in vain to install the minimals on an old (2003) but still
> functional iBook G3, running under OSX 10.4.11. After having received
> some 4MB, I get the message: "dyld: incompatible cpu-subtype" plus a
> reference to line 103 of first-setup.sh.
This is a binary compatibility problem: the LuaTeX executable for Macs
running on PowerPC processors are built on an Intel Mac using a
cross-compilation technique. I'm afraid nothing can be done at the
moment.
> Does anybody on this list know what could be done about this. Btw,
> this iBook can handle TeX and ConTeXt. I installed MacTeX 2009 and
> everything works. But I would prefer the minimals.
Yes, for MacTeX (actually TeX Live) the binaries are built on a actual
G3. But we can't use TeX Live binaries in the Minimals because we need
a more recent LuaTeX.
Arthur
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Failure to Install minimals on iBook G3
2010-10-19 16:44 ` Arthur Reutenauer
@ 2010-10-19 16:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-19 20:35 ` Martin Schröder
2010-10-19 20:59 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-10-19 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 18:44, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> Hello Robert,
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 06:27:44PM +0200, Robert Blackstone wrote:
>> I tried in vain to install the minimals on an old (2003) but still
>> functional iBook G3, running under OSX 10.4.11. After having received
>> some 4MB, I get the message: "dyld: incompatible cpu-subtype" plus a
>> reference to line 103 of first-setup.sh.
>
> This is a binary compatibility problem: the LuaTeX executable for Macs
> running on PowerPC processors are built on an Intel Mac using a
> cross-compilation technique. I'm afraid nothing can be done at the
> moment.
The "nothing can be done" is not entirely true. We should still be
able to compile a new binary on an older machine (yours, for example),
it only makes it very clumsy to compile on several machines.
However, in one way this is a bit weird. We have a non-neglegible
number of PPC users of minimals and nobody has complained about that
problem so far, so nobody was even aware of the problem. Back in May
we had a complaint from Tiger users (on Intel) that we were able to
solve after two days of debugging. So ... there is a hope to fix this,
but only after quite some debugging, if anyone is ready to do the
debugging.
But the other side of the coin is that ... Mac OS X Lion is
approaching with inevitable speed. Once that one is out and installed
on our machines, we'll have serious problems anyway since 10.7 won't
allow cross-compilation for Tiger. And the number of Tiger users is
not neglegible at all ...
As far as TeX Live is concerned, the binaries for PPC are compiled on Panther.
Mojca
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2010-10-19 21:15 UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2010-10-19 21:15 Failure to Install minimals on iBook G3 Robert Blackstone
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-19 16:27 Robert Blackstone
2010-10-19 16:44 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2010-10-19 16:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-19 20:35 ` Martin Schröder
2010-10-19 21:00 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2010-10-19 20:59 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).