From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/61029 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Kevin D. Robbins" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: collecting user wishes for streams related functionalities Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:52:51 -0600 Message-ID: References: <816941.12950.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20100818141225.GA11844@aides> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1258931112==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282143192 23950 80.91.229.12 (18 Aug 2010 14:53:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:53:12 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Aug 18 16:53:10 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Olk0s-00031u-Mw for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:53:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9F0CA5A1; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:53:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 63YXK4B7tsM1; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:53:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77ABCCA59A; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:53:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A90DCA59A for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:53:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QcYIUroyI1Ia for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:52:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (filter1-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3FDCA597 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:52:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com (mail-ey0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o7IEqqsp028962 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:52:52 +0200 Original-Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so450687eyg.14 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BDKRGUzU9pn2wFegi+6xQzM270ejeGCdXy+44DzwMVU=; b=LBvMr229agdHdntGM3GZ34ijp/yXeUWGCHkzjRpBzI+nxT6KHbKg9dWBeZZ0iyh5f8 bB7L/cBBL5+I8Jlw5J17sO2DI5S8IjwIiCIB1zs29OSG+sUsKpSMXtfQWT+4uh91vExW CG8AQ24i62HnlGl52PCL24DNKd+SyrZrFe29s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Te/VuZxH9kVTBY2oEurolm7CWu2Y782ksQ+swyPwbAFe8wPhvrdijJE6EYBLWS+v4K gtAEu4fac7Wh03YcGFCuPIXIXFstlTkYydTPBsIBNzz8e5YxRZQ6THX2O474v3JCVxg6 vIZrkAJjUydPdyhiAhqXQhAn5v0uUNNBkGBIY= Original-Received: by 10.216.26.194 with SMTP id c44mr7049475wea.104.1282143171814; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.216.230.196 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:52:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100818141225.GA11844@aides> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.215.169; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07CTOQQaw - 90c1fe2a5fbf - 20100818 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.152 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:61029 Archived-At: --===============1258931112== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6daa63e4ea53c048e1a385d --0016e6daa63e4ea53c048e1a385d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi everyone, I second the request to support horizontally split page layouts with one stream typeset above another on each page. Kevin On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Philipp Gesang < pgesang@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > On 2010-08-18 <06:23:20>, Salil Sayed wrote: > > Hi All, > > Hans will starting looking into the development of 'streams' for mkvi > > soon. So let us gather our wishes for these functions so that the > > interface can be well thought of beforehand. Please respond to this > > thread with your wishes and I might compile them later in one place if > > doing so makes sense. > > To begin with here is my first wish: > > Being able to flow multiple texts in parallel. A simple case is a > > translation of the same text running on opposite page while the > > original runs on left/right page. In my thesis these are not > > translations, but correlated texts written for different audiences. > > (think of levels in a CG game) So the texts need to be designed > > differently. > > To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can run such > > parallel texts then we can have multiple translations running > together. > > Best regards, > > Salil > > Hi Salil, > > three items I'd like to add: > * horizontal split page layout (upper and lower parts instead of > columns), > * asymmetric stream combinations (e.g. two streams on the left page, > another stream on the facing page), and > * easy reprinting (i.e. a photographic reproduction as one stream on > the left and a text stream on the right page). > I've seen all of this in printed books so it would be a pity to live in > a world where the best typesetting system can't do that. Some of this I > already mentioned to Hans a while ago, maybe he remembers. > > Regards, Philipp > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > -- > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > --0016e6daa63e4ea53c048e1a385d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone,

I second the request to support horizontally split page= layouts with one stream typeset above another on each page.

Kevin
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Philipp G= esang <pgesang@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
<= div class=3D"h5">On 2010-08-18 <06:23:20>, Salil Sayed wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi All,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hans will starting looking into the development of 's= treams' for mkvi
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0soon. So let us gather our wishes for these functions so = that the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0interface can be well thought of beforehand. Please respo= nd to this
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0thread with your wishes and I might compile them later in= one place if
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0doing so makes sense.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0To begin with here is my first wish:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Being able to flow multiple texts in parallel. A simple c= ase is a
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0translation of the same text running on opposite page whi= le the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0original runs on left/right page. In my thesis these are = not
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0translations, but correlated texts written for different = audiences.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(think of levels in a CG game) So the texts need to be de= signed
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0differently.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0To extrapolate this facility, if columns on one page can = run such
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0parallel texts then we can have multiple translations run= ning together.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best regards,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Salil

Hi Salil,

three items I'd like to add:
=C2=A0* horizontal split page layout (upper and lower parts instead of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0columns),
=C2=A0* asymmetric stream combinations (e.g. two streams on the left page,=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0another stream on the facing page), and
=C2=A0* easy reprinting (i.e. a photographic reproduction as one stream on=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the left and a text stream on the right page).
I've seen all of this in printed books so it would be a pity to live in=
a world where the best typesetting system can't do that. Some of this I=
already mentioned to Hans a while ago, maybe he remembers.

Regards, Philipp


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