From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/64392 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: bib problems Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4CFE4C5E.3020800@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291987118 7705 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 13:18:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Hans Hagen Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 10 14:18:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PR2rp-0001W6-Hq for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB81CA8B7; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Xh5YcBge3I+8; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45A5CA8A5; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:25 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2388CA8A5 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AyudoWznqFeE for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516F4C9E8B for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com (mail-qw0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id oBADIKg8025439 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:21 +0100 Original-Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so3788870qwa.14 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:18:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zpx2KSk8vjheYIJQsgc/IGG6eRaZ8CuMdB4i1yTVb7U=; b=r2dMyiKhXzxIfno4x3GJQEx3BLhGv8tPeKncQCoA7RBAXkJP9uFLmA17Gl1cZIcWKg xAnPvQO0mmfE9lYN84AgEZQYskNHEe39+uzXME6NRIJIuBzE2sVX6UWJMDNmrG4Ue7My f+y70q6INdTRkNleJ393Y8L7EZSiSXx+i0yKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YQaSJE0L4TxCDYh80EjzA1BfpOsZpMzfrSoLqAeIPdVESLtZeltN2WZFkCy6wCR3SP f8fDQqlLgpbjSkSsR7hbSUYiKsURtlyqShQq7kOXdZAyQpjz/kBXh+rOWlnFvEgx5O0h ChbNtOv8jLkYfBhbIRTnmamTJKNJEFHq61jgU= Original-Received: by 10.229.184.198 with SMTP id cl6mr664723qcb.222.1291987100542; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:18:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.229.30.6 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:18:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4CFE4C5E.3020800@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.216.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0eDFpild2 - e8ea1f738d4e - 20101210 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:64392 Archived-At: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 16:01, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7-12-2010 3:26, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> I have a tiny feature request. >> >> I would like to have a separate "bibliography" for, say, list of >> figures. Basically all I ask for is the ability to have a separate >> "named" bibliography as opposed to a single list. > > no big deal in mkiv i guess > >> But maybe I need to elaborate a bit more before sending request. It >> makes no sense to implement it in the wrong and unstatisfactory way. >> >> .... Just to mention it before I forget. > > so how would that look at the input end? an extra key? I should think about it a bit. But just a few possibilities ... At the moment I use: \startpublication [k=xy, t=xy] .... \stoppublication Options are: 1.) \startpublicationlist[images] or \startpublications[images] or ... \startpublication[k=xy,t=xy] .... \stoppublication ... \stoppublicationlist 2.) \startpublication[k=xy,t=xy,list=images] .... \stoppublication 3.) \startpublication[images][k=xy,t=xy] .... \stoppublication And then \placepublications[list=images] Then \cite would work in exactly the same way (one would not need to provide any extra key to cite itself). But one would need to think of a proper model to number the references. That is: it would have to be configurable to be able to either number images with roman instead of arabic numerals (or with a, b, c, ...), or to prepend something, like [img1], [img2], [img3] instead of [1], [2], [3]. Or simply let the user do "in \cite{figure}[xy]", or to number images with numbers bigger than other references. For example: Books: [1] [2] [3] Articles: [4] [5] [6] [7] Images: [8] [9] or Books: [1] [2] [3] Articles: [a1] [a2] [a3] [a3] Images: [i1] [i2] or any other user-configurable option for numbering ... However, having a properly designed model is better than having some ad-hoc solution that turns out not flexible enough or clumsy to use and buggy later on ... And yes, something that would allow splitting references across sections could just as well be used for this. It just needs to be designed properly ... (But section-based bibliography could work without any extra key, right?) And no, please don't count it as bug report. I just mentioned it because Hans wanted to have "a big bunch of everything at a single place". I suggest to reopen the topic and create exact specification before the actual implementation. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________