... and emoticons

... and emoticons

[Cecil Westerhof]

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Are there codes for ... and emoticons in ConTeXt?

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

> Are there codes for ... and emoticons in ConTeXt?

\setupbodyfont[libertine]
\starttext
\unknown\ or \ldots
☺☹
\stoptext

Aditya

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Cecil Westerhof]

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2011/3/19 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>  Are there codes for ... and emoticons in ConTeXt?
>>
>
> \setupbodyfont[libertine]
> \starttext
> \unknown\ or \ldots
>

Works. What is the difference between \unknown\ and \ldots?


> ☺☹
>

Does not work at the moment. I'll examine it.

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

> 2011/3/19 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>
>
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>
>>  Are there codes for ... and emoticons in ConTeXt?
>>>
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[libertine]
>> \starttext
>> \unknown\ or \ldots
>>
>
> Works. What is the difference between \unknown\ and \ldots?

\ldots uses the math character (0x2026), while \unknown 
fakes the dots. You can change the spacing between the dots using 
\periods[1mm]

>> ☺☹
>>
>
> Does not work at the moment. I'll examine it.

You need a font that has these characters (lm does not, that is why I used 
libertine).

Aditya

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Cecil Westerhof]

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2011/3/19 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>  2011/3/19 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>
>>
>>  On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>>
>>>  Are there codes for ... and emoticons in ConTeXt?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> \setupbodyfont[libertine]
>>> \starttext
>>> \unknown\ or \ldots
>>>
>>>
>> Works. What is the difference between \unknown\ and \ldots?
>>
>
> \ldots uses the math character (0x2026), while \unknown fakes the dots. You
> can change the spacing between the dots using \periods[1mm]


Okay, I'll play with it.


☺☹
>
>>
>>>
>> Does not work at the moment. I'll examine it.
>>
>
> You need a font that has these characters (lm does not, that is why I used
> libertine).
>

I used libertine, but maybe it is not installed on mys system.

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 04:15, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> Are there codes for ... and emoticons in ConTeXt?
>
> \setupbodyfont[libertine]
> \starttext
> \unknown\ or \ldots
> ☺☹
> \stoptext

If font supports the emoticons in the first place, one could also
define ligatures to create them automatically with
    :-)
etc. But personally I would prefer to use \externalfigure and find
some really nice images out there as opposed to using whatever limited
set of black-and-white images a font provides.

Mojca
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Re: ... and emoticons

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 19.03.2011 um 09:21 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

> If font supports the emoticons in the first place, one could also
> define ligatures to create them automatically with
>    :-)
> etc. But personally I would prefer to use \externalfigure and find
> some really nice images out there as opposed to using whatever limited
> set of black-and-white images a font provides.

You can also do a lot with symbol fonts [1]:

\startTEXpage[offset=5mm]
\definedfont[file:Dingbats2SamplerOT at 80pt]%
\dontleavehmode\hsmash{\yellow\fontchar{d.alt001}}\hsmash{\orange\fontchar{d.alt002}}\fontchar{d}
\stopTEXpage

[1] http://www.ffdingbatsfont.com/

Wolfgang

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Philipp A.]

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On modern Linux distributions, there is support for the ellipsis (…) on the
keyboard layout; The combination is [AltGr+.]

On Windows, there is at least Microsoft
KLC<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=fb7b3dcd-d4c1-4943-9c74-d8df57ef19d7>.
While the possibilities are inferior, simple key combinations like the one
above are easily achieved.

Is someone interested in a german standard layout with some additional
symbols? (×÷…·—–„“”‚‘’ẞ‽‰)

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 20.03.2011 um 14:51 schrieb Philipp A.:

> On modern Linux distributions, there is support for the ellipsis (…) on the keyboard layout; The combination is [AltGr+.]
> 
> On Windows, there is at least Microsoft KLC. While the possibilities are inferior, simple key combinations like the one above are easily achieved.


The is a difference in spacing between … and \unknown.

\starttext

Once uppon a time …

Once uppon a time \unknown

\stoptext

Wolfgang


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Re: ... and emoticons

[Cecil Westerhof]

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2011/3/20 Philipp A. <flying-sheep@web.de>

> On modern Linux distributions, there is support for the ellipsis (…) on the
> keyboard layout; The combination is [AltGr+.]
>

Not all. In openSUSE that is not the case. I made it for myself. I have a
file
    /SharedFunctions/Xmodmap.extra
which I use with:
    xmodmap /SharedFunctions/Xmodmap.extra

In this I have now:
    keysym period    = period       greater     ellipsis

That does the trick.

If you are interested in the complete file: I have it attached.

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!! The following four codes are system dependend and should be checked before using.
!! alt gr  108
!! menu    135
!! windows 133
!! r-ctrl  105
keycode 108      = Mode_switch
keycode 135      = Multi_key

keysym 1         = 1            exclam      onesuperior    onequarter
keysym 2         = 2            at          twosuperior    onehalf
keysym 3         = 3            numbersign  threesuperior  threequarters
keysym 4         = 4            dollar      foursuperior   sterling
keysym 5         = 5            percent     fivesuperior   endash
keysym 6         = 6            asciicircum sixsuperior
keysym 7         = 7            ampersand   sevensuperior  emdash
keysym 8         = 8            asterisk    eightsuperior
keysym 9         = 9            parenleft   ninesuperior
keysym 0         = 0            parenright  degree
keysym minus     = minus        underscore  yen
keysym equal     = equal        plus        notequal       plusminus

keysym w         = w            W           aring          Aring
keysym e         = e            E           EuroSign
keysym r         = r            R           registered
keysym t         = t            T           thorn          Thorn

keysym f         = f            F           ordfeminine

keysym semicolon = semicolon    colon       trademark
keysym backslash = backslash    bar         notsign        brokenbar

keysym z         = z            Z           Greek_omega    Greek_OMEGA
keysym c         = c            C           cent           copyright
keysym m         = m            M           masculine      mu
keysym period    = period       greater     ellipsis
keysym slash     = slash	    question    questiondown

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Philipp A.]

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2011/3/21 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>

> 2011/3/20 Philipp A. <flying-sheep@web.de>
>
>> On modern Linux distributions, there is support for the ellipsis (…) on
>> the keyboard layout; The combination is [AltGr+.]
>>
>
> Not all. In openSUSE that is not the case. I made it for myself. I have a
> file
>     /SharedFunctions/Xmodmap.extra
> which I use with:
>     xmodmap /SharedFunctions/Xmodmap.extra
>
> In this I have now:
>     keysym period    = period       greater     ellipsis
>
> That does the trick.
>
> If you are interested in the complete file: I have it attached.
>
> --
> Cecil Westerhof


oh, i guess you’d like to file a bug request for this. it’s quite useful and
has no drawbacks at all.
i think one of the greatest reasons why linux isn’t adapted as desktop os is
that you can’t just say sth. like i did and assume it it right for everyone.
(missing OEM installs are the biggest reason, though)

but i don’t want to discuss this here ;)
it’s great to have both a reasonable keyboard layout and a text processor
which can understand the symbols. i hope one day i’ll get to print my own
keyboard with math symbols all over. it would greatly improve the
readability of context files when they contain unicode math stuff like
\startformula
∫₀³ xⁿφ₁₂(x) \, ⅆx \stopformula

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Re: ... and emoticons

[Pontus Lurcock]

On Mon 21 Mar 2011, Philipp A. wrote:

> oh, i guess you’d like to file a bug request for this. it’s quite
> useful and has no drawbacks at all.

Well, the drawback is that it takes up a key combination :-). For
example, in the US-international dead-key layout, AltGr+. applies an
overdot diacritic to the next character, so remapping it to an
ellipsis would remove that capability. You don't mention which
keyboard layout you are using.

> i think one of the greatest reasons why linux isn’t adapted as
> desktop os is that you can’t just say sth. like i did and assume it
> it right for everyone.

Both Linux and Windows offer a choice of hundreds of keyboard layouts,
since different languages have different character sets (a US keymap
would not gain much success in Greece).

> i hope one day i’ll get to print my own keyboard with math symbols
> all over.

I did once turn a UK keyboard into a Swedish keyboard using white
enamel paint, black marker pen, clear varnish, and a steady hand.
The main problem was that the varnish started degrading after a 
couple of years' daily use.

As an Emacs user, I've found that the easiest way to get rarely used
Unicode symbols is to hit ctrl-x, 8, enter and type the name of the
symbol (I believe the numbers also work but I have trouble remembering
them).

Also note that it's possible to switch between different keyboard
layouts using a hotkey combination, which is handy e.g. for quickly
entering Greek characters in a scientific document.

Pont
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