gentium font doesn't work in latest current

gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Hi all,

the current version doesn't work with the gentium font; it is displayed in a
tiny size. Test file:

\usetypescript[gentium]

\starttext

Hello 
\switchtobodyfont[gentium]
World

\stoptext

I don't know if other fonts are affected as well; so far, I've only seen this
with gentium. This used to work about two weeks ago.

All best

Thomas

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> the current version doesn't work with the gentium font; it is displayed in a
> tiny size. 

Works fine here with current 2010.05.24 and latest beta. Perhaps you
should clear the font cache.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Taco Hoekwater <taco <at> elvenkind.com> writes:

> 
> 
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > the current version doesn't work with the gentium font; it is displayed in a
> > tiny size. 
> 
> Works fine here with current 2010.05.24 and latest beta. Perhaps you
> should clear the font cache.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
Shoot, I tried everything (deleted the luatex cache, deleted another instance of
the gentium font, made a new example to exclude caching in the pdf viewer,
compiled luatex from trunk), but I still get the tiny font size with the example
I posted above. This is on linux, with luatex version 0.61 and the latest beta.
Could others please test the example above and report? 

Best

Thomas

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:19, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> Shoot, I tried everything (deleted the luatex cache, deleted another instance of
> the gentium font, made a new example to exclude caching in the pdf viewer,
> compiled luatex from trunk), but I still get the tiny font size with the example
> I posted above. This is on linux, with luatex version 0.61 and the latest beta.
> Could others please test the example above and report?

I get the same problem.

Mojca

Out of curiosity: did we ever submit the proper version of ttf to
CTAN? We had a broken font version in repository for a while. It could
be that it was just a time-bomb showing up the problem at some random
point in time. But I didn't try to replace the font version.
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> point in time. But I didn't try to replace the font version.

Mine (correct output) is GenR102.ttf, 362664 bytes, md5sum
8f8fe5737f62cb2ad314ca8c317fc49b

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> point in time. But I didn't try to replace the font version.
>
> Mine (correct output) is GenR102.ttf, 362664 bytes, md5sum
> 8f8fe5737f62cb2ad314ca8c317fc49b

# md5sum GenR102.TTF
c968d72c4bfc649e2581a5d6699fd31f  GenR102.TTF
309228  bytes , 2008-11-08 16:37

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:29, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> point in time. But I didn't try to replace the font version.
>
> Mine (correct output) is GenR102.ttf, 362664 bytes, md5sum
> 8f8fe5737f62cb2ad314ca8c317fc49b

Mine was (Thomas???):

> md5 GenR102.TTF
MD5 (GenR102.TTF) = c968d72c4bfc649e2581a5d6699fd31f

But replacing it with another version didn't help (yet) despite
deleting the cache.

Mojca
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:29, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>> point in time. But I didn't try to replace the font version.
>> Mine (correct output) is GenR102.ttf, 362664 bytes, md5sum
>> 8f8fe5737f62cb2ad314ca8c317fc49b
> 
> Mine was (Thomas???):
> 
>> md5 GenR102.TTF
> MD5 (GenR102.TTF) = c968d72c4bfc649e2581a5d6699fd31f

Can someone email me broken one? I am deep into TL right now
so I don't want to mess with the minimals.
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:38, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> Can someone email me broken one? I am deep into TL right now
> so I don't want to mess with the minimals.

http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/fonts/common/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:38, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Can someone email me broken one? I am deep into TL right now
>> so I don't want to mess with the minimals.
> 
> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/fonts/common/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF

Still OK for me.

!load otf       : loading: /home/taco/tmp/GenR102.ttf (hash: genr102)


!load otf       : font loaded okay


!load otf       : file size: 309228
!load otf       : enhancing ...
!load otf       : saving in cache: /home/taco/tmp/GenR102.ttf

Weird. This machine is 32-bit linux, btw.


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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:38, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>> Can someone email me broken one? I am deep into TL right now
>>> so I don't want to mess with the minimals.
>>
>> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/fonts/common/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF
>
> Still OK for me.
>
> !load otf       : loading: /home/taco/tmp/GenR102.ttf (hash: genr102)
>
>
> !load otf       : font loaded okay
>
>
> !load otf       : file size: 309228
> !load otf       : enhancing ...
> !load otf       : saving in cache: /home/taco/tmp/GenR102.ttf
>
> Weird. This machine is 32-bit linux, btw.

Hm again ttf vs TTF ?



(/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/tex/context/third/gentium/type-gentium.tex)
!fonts define   : unable to detemine font format for
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF'
!pages          : flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
systems         : end file test.tex at line 9
system          : cont-err loaded
(/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex
systems         : no file 'cont-sys.tex', using 'cont-sys.rme' instead
) )</opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF></opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf>

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:00 PM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:38, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>> Can someone email me broken one? I am deep into TL right now
>>>> so I don't want to mess with the minimals.
>>>
>>> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/fonts/common/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF
>>
>> Still OK for me.
>>
>> !load otf       : loading: /home/taco/tmp/GenR102.ttf (hash: genr102)
>>
>>
>> !load otf       : font loaded okay
>>
>>
>> !load otf       : file size: 309228
>> !load otf       : enhancing ...
>> !load otf       : saving in cache: /home/taco/tmp/GenR102.ttf
>>
>> Weird. This machine is 32-bit linux, btw.
>
> Hm again ttf vs TTF ?
>
>
>
> (/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/tex/context/third/gentium/type-gentium.tex)
> !fonts define   : unable to detemine font format for
> '/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF'
> !pages          : flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
> systems         : end file test.tex at line 9
> system          : cont-err loaded
> (/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex
> systems         : no file 'cont-sys.tex', using 'cont-sys.rme' instead
> ) )</opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/fonts/truetype/public/gentium/GenR102.TTF></opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf>

bingo.
Thomas can you try to rename *TTF in *ttf ?


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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

luigi scarso <luigi.scarso <at> gmail.com> writes:


> >> Weird. This machine is 32-bit linux, btw.
> >
> > Hm again ttf vs TTF ?

> bingo.
> Thomas can you try to rename *TTF in *ttf ?
> 


Yes, that solved it for me too! Taco, what can we do about that? AFAICS,
unfortunately, the gentium fonts do come with the TTF extension. Should we
rename them or trust that Hans will cook up a solution? 

Thanks for looking into this!

Thomas

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> luigi scarso <luigi.scarso <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>>> Weird. This machine is 32-bit linux, btw.
>>> Hm again ttf vs TTF ?
> 
>> bingo.
>> Thomas can you try to rename *TTF in *ttf ?
> 
> Yes, that solved it for me too! Taco, what can we do about that? AFAICS,
> unfortunately, the gentium fonts do come with the TTF extension. Should we
> rename them or trust that Hans will cook up a solution? 

Should be fixed in the next beta (and I hotfixed the TL repo)

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Otared Kavian]

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Hi all,

With the latest beta, the issue with the size of the gentium font is solved but till there is still an issue with the distance between "Hello" and "World"
I tested this with the following example

\usetypescript[gentium]
\starttext
Hello \switchtobodyfont[gentium] World
\stoptext

and ConTeXt version 
ConTeXt  ver: 2010.05.27 13:47 MKIV  fmt: 2010.5.27  int: english/english
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.1-2010042810.

Please see the attached PDF file. (Working on Mac OS X 10.6.3, gentium.ttf Version 1.02; 2005; OFL release).

Best regards: OK

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On 27 mai 2010, at 13:47, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> 
> 
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> luigi scarso <luigi.scarso <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> 
>>>>> Weird. This machine is 32-bit linux, btw.
>>>> Hm again ttf vs TTF ?
>> 
>>> bingo.
>>> Thomas can you try to rename *TTF in *ttf ?
>> 
>> Yes, that solved it for me too! Taco, what can we do about that? AFAICS,
>> unfortunately, the gentium fonts do come with the TTF extension. Should we
>> rename them or trust that Hans will cook up a solution? 
> 
> Should be fixed in the next beta (and I hotfixed the TL repo)
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Taco Hoekwater]

Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> With the latest beta, the issue with the size of the gentium font is solved but till there is still an issue with the distance between "Hello" and "World"
> I tested this with the following example
> 
> \usetypescript[gentium]
> \starttext
> Hello \switchtobodyfont[gentium] World

I saw that too. \switchtobodyfont is generating lots of spaces
when it is called in horizontal mode. They come from the
\definetypescriptprefix lines in the tex-gyre typescript
(type-otf.mkiv):


   \definetypescriptprefix [f:pagella] [pagella]
\definetypescriptprefix [f:palatino]   [pagella]

et cetera. Each lines adds two extra blanks: one is the space
after the first command, the second is the newline after the second
command.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-5-2010 3:36, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
> Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> With the latest beta, the issue with the size of the gentium font is solved but till there is still an issue with the distance between "Hello" and "World"
>> I tested this with the following example
>>
>> \usetypescript[gentium]
>> \starttext
>> Hello \switchtobodyfont[gentium] World
>
> I saw that too. \switchtobodyfont is generating lots of spaces
> when it is called in horizontal mode. They come from the
> \definetypescriptprefix lines in the tex-gyre typescript
> (type-otf.mkiv):
>
>
>     \definetypescriptprefix [f:pagella] [pagella]
> \definetypescriptprefix [f:palatino]   [pagella]
>
> et cetera. Each lines adds two extra blanks: one is the space
> after the first command, the second is the newline after the second
> command.

we can try to ignore lines, but even then, it's better to do:

\usetypescript[gentium]
\setupbodyfont[gentium]
\setupbodyfont[whatever]

\starttext

Hello {\switchtobodyfont[gentium] World ... }

this is because \switchtobodyfont is doing a lot and is supposed to be 
used grouped, so performance wise it's better first to trigger it once

Hans



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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-5-2010 1:00, luigi scarso wrote:

> Hm again ttf vs TTF ?

There has been some changes in the filename checking (was needed for 
usage in latex) and something might have got lost there. In retrospect i 
should never have changed anything in our code for that reason and 
definitely not around tl freeze time.  I'll have a look at it.

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Re: gentium font doesn't work in latest current

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
<thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater <taco <at> elvenkind.com> writes:
>
>>
>>
>> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > the current version doesn't work with the gentium font; it is displayed in a
>> > tiny size.
>>
>> Works fine here with current 2010.05.24 and latest beta. Perhaps you
>> should clear the font cache.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Taco
>>
> Shoot, I tried everything (deleted the luatex cache, deleted another instance of
> the gentium font, made a new example to exclude caching in the pdf viewer,
> compiled luatex from trunk), but I still get the tiny font size with the example
> I posted above. This is on linux, with luatex version 0.61 and the latest beta.
> Could others please test the example above and report?

Same problem here on my linux box 32 bit
# context --version
MTXrun | main context file:
/opt/luatex/minimals-2010-05-26/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.27 09:45
root@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv/thomas# luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.1-2010042821

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