Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

["Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد"]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:03:33 -0700, barney schwartz
<barndog1946@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> New build of WinEdt 6.0 (Build: 20101121) has been uploaded to
>
>>> www.winedt.com
>
>>> This build contains macros that work with the latest ConTeXt Mark
>>> IV (previous versions were designed for older version of ConTeXt).
>>> If you are upgrading from older version of WinEdt make sure that
>>> the executable for ConTeXt in WinEdt's Execution Modes is set
>>> context.exe (instead of old texexec.exe)...

I used winedt for years, and turning it into a full-fledged dedicated
ConTeXt editor would not be hard ... I had to leave it because there was no
utf-8 or bidi support.

limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...

otherwise the best dedicated tex editor I've ever used...

Best wishes
Idris
-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shiʿi Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[Mojca Miklavec]

2010/11/23 "\"Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد\"" wrote:
>
> I used winedt for years, and turning it into a full-fledged dedicated
> ConTeXt editor would not be hard ... I had to leave it because there was no
> utf-8 or bidi support.
>
> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...

I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.

It's not that he made it default on his own machine - it is now
default with every installation of WinEdt (it might be that they made
that on his request).

Mojca
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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:43:13 +0100 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

>> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
>> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
> 
> I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
> it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
> ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.

The limited utf-8-support has been there for years. And it is really
very limited: WinEdt is not capable to handle utf-8 documents that
require more than one code page (eg. a mix of Russian and French). 

I don't care very much as I'm not using other scripts. In the few
cases I need access to chars from other codepages I can use
^^^^-notation. Or use emacs.  

-- 
Ulrike Fischer 

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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[Khaled Hosny]

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:01:17AM +0100, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> Am Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:43:13 +0100 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> 
> >> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
> >> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
> > 
> > I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
> > it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
> > ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.
> 
> The limited utf-8-support has been there for years. And it is really
> very limited: WinEdt is not capable to handle utf-8 documents that
> require more than one code page (eg. a mix of Russian and French). 

I've seen all sorts of limited unicode support, but that one is really
retarded, I can't actually imagine how such thing would be coded!

Regards,
 Khaled

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 Khaled Hosny
 Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
 Free font developer
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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:31:05 +0200 schrieb Khaled Hosny:


>>>> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
>>>> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
>>> 
>>> I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
>>> it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
>>> ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.
>> 
>> The limited utf-8-support has been there for years. And it is really
>> very limited: WinEdt is not capable to handle utf-8 documents that
>> require more than one code page (eg. a mix of Russian and French). 
> 
> I've seen all sorts of limited unicode support, but that one is really
> retarded, I can't actually imagine how such thing would be coded!

It is a simple mapping to a 256 codepage: To quote from the
documentation:

However, WinEdt can transparently convert Unicode (UTF-8) documents
into ACP when they are loaded and back to UTF-8 when they are saved.
This makes it possible to work with UTF-8 documents as long as they
can be converted into ACP (Ansi Code Page).



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Ulrike Fischer 

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New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[barney schwartz]

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>> New build of WinEdt 6.0 (Build: 20101121) has been uploaded to

>> www.winedt.com

>> This build contains macros that work with the latest ConTeXt Mark
>> IV (previous versions were designed for older version of ConTeXt).
>> If you are upgrading from older version of WinEdt make sure that
>> the executable for ConTeXt in WinEdt's Execution Modes is set
>>context.exe (instead of old texexec.exe)...

>>If you (really!?) want to use old ConTeXt Mark II you will have
>>modify the menu item for ConTeXt to call:

>>ConTeXt_old.edt

 >> instead of

>> ConTeXt.edt

>> News.txt gives the details (read it!)

>> In the meantime another build 20101111 had been available (but
>> never announced on the list). Since then WinEdt takes care of
>> environment variables MIKTEX_EDITOR and TEXEDIT that define the
>> editor response for "e" in MiKTeX and TeX Live.

>> You can install the latest build over the old version of WinEdt 6.0 and
>> then read What's new in the Help menu (if you want to take
>> advantage of certain changes such as new items in the Maintenance
>> Menu designed to load customized scripts etc...).

>> Best regards,
>> alex

Just thought I would post this here for other Winedt users.

barney

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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[Hans Hagen]

On 21-11-2010 10:03, barney schwartz wrote:

> Just thought I would post this here for other Winedt users.

ah, good. thanks,

Hans

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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[barney schwartz]

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Update on using MikTeX 2.9, ConTeXt MKIV, Winedt 6.?!!!

First let me thank Mojca, Aditya, Ulrike and Hans for looking into this.

I received a suggestion to remove Miktex Full and install Miktex basic. That
did NOT work as I like lucida and lucida math which will not function
correctly using Miktex basic. So here is what I did to make it all work:

1. uninstall Miktex 2.9 basic
2. Install Miktex 2.9 complete
3.Go to Miktex\doc\latex\circuitikz and rename context.tex some other name.
For some reason known only to Christian Schenk Miktex searches until it
finds that sample and attempts to use it. So renaming that file allows
luatex to "kick in and start processing".

Finally success!

now all I need to do is figure out how to invoke bibiliographies in MKIV
using bibstyle econometrica.

Thanks to all!!!

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Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:03, barney schwartz wrote:
>>> New build of WinEdt 6.0 (Build: 20101121) has been uploaded to
>
>>> www.winedt.com
>
>>> This build contains macros that work with the latest ConTeXt Mark
>>> IV (previous versions were designed for older version of ConTeXt).
>>> If you are upgrading from older version of WinEdt make sure that
>>> the executable for ConTeXt in WinEdt's Execution Modes is set
>>>context.exe (instead of old texexec.exe)...
>
> Just thought I would post this here for other Winedt users.

Thanks a lot for this notice (and thanks to Ulrike for debugging).
This is indeed very nice to know (it used to be my favourite editor a
while ago). I always thought that supporting ConTeXt needs heavy
hacking of WinEdt.

Mojca

(I'm still confused about whether it really doesn't/won't support
UTF-8 until version 7 since it is then almost useless for any
non-English speaking user for XeTeX and ConTeXt MKIV that are now
available in drop-down menu by default.)
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