[OT] Stix

[OT] Stix

[Taco Hoekwater]

http://www.stixfonts.org/
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Re: [OT] Stix

[taco]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> http://www.stixfonts.org/

Now I'll have to back to waiting for Duke Nukem 3D again ...
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Re: [OT] Stix

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.stixfonts.org/

# pdffonts STIXIntUpBol.otf.pdf
name                                 type              emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
Error: Mismatch between font type and embedded font file
STIXIntegralsUp-Bold                 Type 1C           yes no  no       7  0
Helvetica                            Type 1            no  no  no       5  0
Helvetica-Bold                       Type 1            no  no  no       6  0



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Re: [OT] Stix

[taco]

luigi scarso wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>> http://www.stixfonts.org/
> 
> # pdffonts STIXIntUpBol.otf.pdf
> name                                 type              emb sub uni object ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
> Error: Mismatch between font type and embedded font file
> STIXIntegralsUp-Bold                 Type 1C           yes no  no       7  0
> Helvetica                            Type 1            no  no  no       5  0
> Helvetica-Bold                       Type 1            no  no  no       6  0

Some xpdf problem, I fear. Acroread is happy with those PDFs.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [OT] Stix

[Hans Hagen]

On 28-5-2010 9:58, taco wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>> http://www.stixfonts.org/
>
> Now I'll have to back to waiting for Duke Nukem 3D again ...

I suppose that Luigi is already testing things, and will report on it in 
detail, but here's a quick and dirty check on what's in there:

\starttypescript [math] [stix] [name]
     \definefontsynonym[MathRoman][file:stixgeneral.otf] [features=math]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [stix] [name] % why 'italic' infull and 'bol' 
without 'd'?
     \definefontsynonym[Serif]          [file:stixgeneral.otf] 
[features=default]
     \definefontsynonym[SerifBold]      [file:stixgeneralbol.otf] 
[features=defaulth]
     \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic]    [file:stixgeneralitalic.otf] 
[features=default]
     \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][file:stixgeneralbolita.otf] 
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[stix]
     \definetypeface [stix] [rm] [serif] [stix] [default]
     \definetypeface [stix] [mm] [math]  [stix] [default]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[stix]
\setupbodyfont[stix]

\usemodule[fnt-25]

\startbuffer[mathtest]
     \begingroup\mm\mr\showmathfontcharacters\endgroup
\stopbuffer

Well, sort of as expected ... no opentype math font at all ... I wonder 
what took 'm so long ... okay, luatex/mkiv could be wrong and is no 
reference and could well be unable to handle an opentype math font but 
the only reference to math in the font is to the copyright holders, i.e. 
no math table, so i wonder what programs like msword can do with it.

Okay, I could make a virtual font but gimme a reason. So, it looks like 
Khaled has to do his magic and make a proper 'derived work' unless we 
want to wait till 1.1 which will show up end 2010.

The good news is that there are lots of glyphs.  Kerns indeed but only a 
liga feature (interesting with a NLD variant).

Hans


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Re: [OT] Stix

[Matija Šuklje]

Dne petek 28. maja 2010 ob 21:27:44 je Taco Hoekwater napisal(a):
> http://www.stixfonts.org/

Are these any good? It sounds like an epic thing, but why is that so?


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Re: [OT] Stix

[Hans Hagen]

On 28-5-2010 11:21, Matija Šuklje wrote:
> Dne petek 28. maja 2010 ob 21:27:44 je Taco Hoekwater napisal(a):
>> http://www.stixfonts.org/
>
> Are these any good? It sounds like an epic thing, but why is that so?

depends on your needs, the current otf version is probably usable for 
primary school math (no large operators and so in the core font)

Hans


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Re: [OT] Stix

[Matija Šuklje]

Dne petek 28. maja 2010 ob 23:44:10 je Hans Hagen napisal(a):
> > Are these any good? It sounds like an epic thing, but why is that so?
> depends on your needs, the current otf version is probably usable for
> primary school math (no large operators and so in the core font)

Oh, so it's primarily a font aimed for mathematical equations and suchlike?


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Re: [OT] Stix

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 28-5-2010 9:58, taco wrote:
>>
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.stixfonts.org/
>>
>> Now I'll have to back to waiting for Duke Nukem 3D again ...
>
> I suppose that Luigi is already testing things, and will report on it in
> detail, but here's a quick and dirty check on what's in there:
>
> \starttypescript [math] [stix] [name]
>    \definefontsynonym[MathRoman][file:stixgeneral.otf] [features=math]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [stix] [name] % why 'italic' infull and 'bol'
> without 'd'?
>    \definefontsynonym[Serif]          [file:stixgeneral.otf]
> [features=default]
>    \definefontsynonym[SerifBold]      [file:stixgeneralbol.otf]
> [features=defaulth]
>    \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic]    [file:stixgeneralitalic.otf]
> [features=default]
>    \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][file:stixgeneralbolita.otf]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript[stix]
>    \definetypeface [stix] [rm] [serif] [stix] [default]
>    \definetypeface [stix] [mm] [math]  [stix] [default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \usetypescript[stix]
> \setupbodyfont[stix]
>
> \usemodule[fnt-25]
>
> \startbuffer[mathtest]
>    \begingroup\mm\mr\showmathfontcharacters\endgroup
> \stopbuffer

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/stix
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Re: [OT] Stix

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/stix

  Impressive reaction time from all of you...

  And what about Khaled's promise? He vowed to release an OpenType
version of the STIX fonts with MATH table within one week of their
official release ;-)

	Arthur
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Re: [OT] Stix

[Hans Hagen]

On 29-5-2010 12:09, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/stix
>
>    Impressive reaction time from all of you...
>
>    And what about Khaled's promise? He vowed to release an OpenType
> version of the STIX fonts with MATH table within one week of their
> official release ;-)

He's probably still deciding on either or not to agree to the license as 
one needs to confirm explicitly -)

Which reminds me that i need to add typescripts for the xits fonts,

Hans

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Re: [OT] Stix

[Hans Hagen]

On 28-5-2010 11:49, Matija Šuklje wrote:
> Dne petek 28. maja 2010 ob 23:44:10 je Hans Hagen napisal(a):
>>> Are these any good? It sounds like an epic thing, but why is that so?
>> depends on your needs, the current otf version is probably usable for
>> primary school math (no large operators and so in the core font)
>
> Oh, so it's primarily a font aimed for mathematical equations and suchlike?

Or the Guinness Book of Records with the biggest repertoire of math 
symbols (althoug cambria probably has more) .

\starttext
\showfont[file:stixgeneral.otf][all]
\stoptext

(which reminds me ... the fonts probably also lack the smaller desing 
sizes)

Hans

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Re: [OT] Stix

[luigi scarso]

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 28-5-2010 11:49, Matija Šuklje wrote:
>>
>> Dne petek 28. maja 2010 ob 23:44:10 je Hans Hagen napisal(a):
>>>>
>>>> Are these any good? It sounds like an epic thing, but why is that so?
>>>
>>> depends on your needs, the current otf version is probably usable for
>>> primary school math (no large operators and so in the core font)
>>
>> Oh, so it's primarily a font aimed for mathematical equations and
>> suchlike?
>
> Or the Guinness Book of Records with the biggest repertoire of math symbols
> (althoug cambria probably has more) .
>
> \starttext
> \showfont[file:stixgeneral.otf][all]
> \stoptext
>
> (which reminds me ... the fonts probably also lack the smaller desing sizes)
nice:updated
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/stix
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is this valid usage of \def?

[Rogutės Sparnuotos]

Hello,

Could someone please confirm that it is ok to use \def like this:

  \def\ru{\switchtobodyfont[cyr]\language[ru]}
  \starttext
  \item {\ru Эйхенбаум, Борис. {\it Теория «формального метода»}.} 
        Some other text in the main language.
  \stoptext

This is MkII with XeTeX, cyr is defined as

  \definetypeface[cyr][rm][Xserif][CMU Serif]
  \definetypeface[cyr][ss][Xsans][CMU Sans Serif]
  \definetypeface[cyr][tt][Xmono][CMU Typewriter Text]

because 'Latin Modern' lacks cyrillic glyphs and 'Computer Modern Unicode'
lacks some Lithuanian glyphs (and looks slightly different).

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Re: is this valid usage of \def?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 30.05.10 01:33, schrieb Rogutės Sparnuotos:
> Hello,
>
> Could someone please confirm that it is ok to use \def like this:
>
>    \def\ru{\switchtobodyfont[cyr]\language[ru]}
>    \starttext
>    \item {\ru Эйхенбаум, Борис. {\it Теория «формального метода»}.}
>          Some other text in the main language.
>    \stoptext
>
> This is MkII with XeTeX, cyr is defined as
>
>    \definetypeface[cyr][rm][Xserif][CMU Serif]
>    \definetypeface[cyr][ss][Xsans][CMU Sans Serif]
>    \definetypeface[cyr][tt][Xmono][CMU Typewriter Text]
>
> because 'Latin Modern' lacks cyrillic glyphs and 'Computer Modern Unicode'
> lacks some Lithuanian glyphs (and looks slightly different).
>    

In MkIV you can set falback fonts for cyrillic etc.

Wolfgang

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