From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/66952 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alasdair McAndrew Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden? 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Maybe as a stop-gap some ConTeXt files could be provided which at least roughly emulate a few standard LaTeX styles? -Alasdair On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: > > For example. the LaTeX ieee.sty is available at >> http://delphiwww.cern.ch/delphi$www/private/det/stc/ieee94/mp/ieee.styand >> ACM styles at http://www.acm.org/publications/latex_style/. How hard >> would >> it be to emulate these in ConTeXt? >> > > The hard part is figuring out the values (font size, spaces after sections, > etc) from the LaTeX code. It is difficult to look at > http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran.cls and > figure out what is the title size for a 10pt document, or how much space > should come between the author block and the start of the two column text, > etc. > > Reverse engineering these values is no fun. That is why I am saying that an > *exact and complete* spec is needed. > > Aditya > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- Blog: http://amca01.wordpress.com Web: http://bit.ly/Alasdair Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alasdair.mcandrew --001636283784780ade049e6b7eb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I see that would be a non-trivial problem.=A0 Maybe as a stop-gap some= ConTeXt files could be provided which at least roughly emulate a few stand= ard LaTeX styles?

-Alasdair

On Mon= , Mar 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Alasdair McAndrew wrote:

For example. the LaTeX ieee.sty is available at
http://delphiwww.cern.ch/delphi$www/private/det/s= tc/ieee94/mp/ieee.sty and
ACM styles at http://www.acm.org/publications/latex_style/. =A0How hard= would
it be to emulate these in ConTeXt?

The hard part is figuring out the values (font size, spaces after sections,= etc) from the LaTeX code. It is difficult to look at http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran.cls and figure out what is the title size for a 10pt document, or how much s= pace should come between the author block and the start of the two column t= ext, etc.

Reverse engineering these values is no fun. That is why I am saying that an= *exact and complete* spec is needed.

Aditya



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