Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX

Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX

[Richard Stephens]

>> As I cannot use rsynch to update ConTeXt, I was wondering if the
>> MikTeX distribution might provide an alternative route to getting
>> updates.
>
> Is it a firewall problem or something else?

Firewall. I am protected by two company firewalls (so I'm told). There
is no prospect of opening ports that are currently blocked and
'tunnelling' or whatever it's called would be seen as a contavention
of company rules!

>> 3) How often will the MikTeX distribution be updated with a new
>> ConTeXt? I guess I only need updating a couple of times a year, now
>> that MKIV is looking pretty good.
>
> You need to ask Christian Schenk about that. ConTeXt is tightly bound
> to a specific LuaTeX version. So until version of LuaTeX is updated in
> MikTeX, there is no way to update ConTeXt there (unless somebody does
> a heavy patching or backporting of features; which won't happen). It
> is quite possible that LuaTeX will only be updated with MikTeX 2.10.
> The history of MikTeX says that there have usually been major version
> releases in intervals from 8 months up to 3 years, so maybe you won't
> see any ConTeXt update in MikTeX during the next year or two.
>

I guess I'll carry on using my own update method then: I download
cont-tmf.zip (from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-2.htm) then hunt
for new binaries in the directory tree at
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/. It's a pain but it seems to work
at the moment. It would be nice if there were a .zip file that
contained the latest binaries to go into texmf-mswin/bin. But perhaps
that would open up another can of worms!?
Perhaps now that MKIV has most features working I could just update
with the stable releases rather than the betas.

Thanks for your help.

Richard
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Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:46, Richard Stephens wrote:
>
> I guess I'll carry on using my own update method then: I download
> cont-tmf.zip (from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-2.htm) then hunt
> for new binaries in the directory tree at
> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/. It's a pain but it seems to work
> at the moment. It would be nice if there were a .zip file that
> contained the latest binaries to go into texmf-mswin/bin. But perhaps
> that would open up another can of worms!?
> Perhaps now that MKIV has most features working I could just update
> with the stable releases rather than the betas.

There is this one:
    http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/
but it's not being updated on regular basis.

At least not yet. I need to get back to this sometime soon ...

Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:27, Richard Stephens wrote:
>
> As I cannot use rsynch to update ConTeXt, I was wondering if the
> MikTeX distribution might provide an alternative route to getting
> updates. There are questions:

Is it a firewall problem or something else?

> 3) How often will the MikTeX distribution be updated with a new
> ConTeXt? I guess I only need updating a couple of times a year, now
> that MKIV is looking pretty good.

You need to ask Christian Schenk about that. ConTeXt is tightly bound
to a specific LuaTeX version. So until version of LuaTeX is updated in
MikTeX, there is no way to update ConTeXt there (unless somebody does
a heavy patching or backporting of features; which won't happen). It
is quite possible that LuaTeX will only be updated with MikTeX 2.10.
The history of MikTeX says that there have usually been major version
releases in intervals from 8 months up to 3 years, so maybe you won't
see any ConTeXt update in MikTeX during the next year or two.

I used to have two separate trees: one for MikTeX and one from Pragma
and if MikTeX failed, I switched the distribution temporary.

> 4) Does TeXworks (which is part of MikTeX distribution) work with ConTeXt?

There is no reason why it shouldn't.

Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:27:32 +0000 schrieb Richard Stephens:

> Hello all,
> 
> As I cannot use rsynch to update ConTeXt, I was wondering if the
> MikTeX distribution might provide an alternative route to getting
> updates. There are questions:
> 1) The Wiki page on MikTeX (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MikTeX)
> still says it's broken. I presume this is out of date?

Yes. 

> 2) Does MKIV work in MikTeX?

In principle yes. There is a problem with the search pathes: context
finds files everywhere in the texmf-trees. This can lead to
problems.


> 3) How often will the MikTeX distribution be updated with a new
> ConTeXt? 

No idea. 

> 4) Does TeXworks (which is part of MikTeX distribution) work with ConTeXt?

I didn't try but I don't see a reason why not. You will have to add
tool which calls context.exe. I had no problems to adapt winedt.

-- 
Ulrike Fischer 

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ConTeXt on MikTeX

[Richard Stephens]

Hello all,

As I cannot use rsynch to update ConTeXt, I was wondering if the
MikTeX distribution might provide an alternative route to getting
updates. There are questions:
1) The Wiki page on MikTeX (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MikTeX)
still says it's broken. I presume this is out of date?
2) Does MKIV work in MikTeX?
3) How often will the MikTeX distribution be updated with a new
ConTeXt? I guess I only need updating a couple of times a year, now
that MKIV is looking pretty good.
4) Does TeXworks (which is part of MikTeX distribution) work with ConTeXt?
5) Any opinions or advice?

Thanks,

Richard
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Re: Context on Miktex

[Martin Scholz]

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David Arnold schrieb:
> All,
> 
> On http://blog.miktex.org/post/2008/05/ConTeXt-support.aspx I read that
> Miktex version of Context is broken. I also read Mojca's workaround,
> pasted below. Has anyone tried this and does it work? Any conflicts or
> difficulties?
> 
> Second question: Can I get mptopdf to work in the Miktex tree without
> installing Context?
> 
> Mojca's workaround:
> 
> May 31. 2008 00:37
> 
> 
> If you still want to run ConTeXt on MikTeX while it has been removed,
> you may create a file texmfstart.bat in C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
> 2.7\miktex\bin with the content:
> 
> 
> @echo off
> ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" "%*"
> 
> 
> and extract www.pragma-ade.com/context/current/cont-tmf.zip
> <http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/current/cont-tmf.zip> into C:\Program
> Files\MiKTeX 2.7. Then, update filename database and generate formats,
> and everything should work again.
> 
> Mojca
> 
> Mojca
> 
> 
> David Arnold
> College of the Redwoods
> Mathematics Department
> Eureka, CA 95501
> (707) 476-4222
> http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/
> 
> 
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Hi David,

I had the same problem and now totaly switched from miktex to texlive.
Texlive has context in a new version in it and up to date a online
installer so that you only need about 2 MB for the first download and
the rest will come by launching the installer.
My advice would be to switch away from miktex to texlive it now has the
same onlineupdatefunktion as miktex.

Greetings
Martin
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Context on Miktex

[David Arnold]

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All,

On http://blog.miktex.org/post/2008/05/ConTeXt-support.aspx I read  
that Miktex version of Context is broken. I also read Mojca's  
workaround, pasted below. Has anyone tried this and does it work? Any  
conflicts or difficulties?

Second question: Can I get mptopdf to work in the Miktex tree without  
installing Context?

Mojca's workaround:

May 31. 2008 00:37



If you still want to run ConTeXt on MikTeX while it has been removed,  
you may create a file texmfstart.bat in C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7 
\miktex\bin with the content:


@echo off
ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb"  
"%*"


and extract www.pragma-ade.com/context/current/cont-tmf.zip into C: 
\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7. Then, update filename database and  
generate formats, and everything should work again.

Mojca
Mojca


David Arnold
College of the Redwoods
Mathematics Department
Eureka, CA 95501
(707) 476-4222
http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/



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Re: context on miktex

[Hans Hagen]

goch@unb.ca wrote:

> > (1) make sure you can run texexec from any path (by using a bat file or
> > the runperl.exe launch program)
> 
> For some of us it is not obvious how to do this. A search of my
> computer for "texexec.*"  yields no Win95/DOS executables, and I
> don't have runperl.exe either.

texexec.pl and texutil.pl are perl scripts. The first provides a command
line interface to tex (and more) and the second deals with context
auxiliary files (and again some more). The main idea behind texexec is
to make running tex a bit more comfortable, texutil takes for instance
care of sorting indexes. 

Both used to be dos/windows binaries (modula 2 programs) but because I
want to use linux too, some time ago these scripts were translated to
perl. Our editing environment is recently translated to perl/tk and will
be released later.  

> What do I need besides a functioning mikTeX system on Win95?

active state perl 

> Or should I be using some command other than "texexec"?

runperl.exe (I will put it at our site) is simply a perl launcher (under
unix this is more straightfoward). One needs to copy runperl.exe to
texexec.exe and texutil.exe. All need to be in the same path. So,
"runperl.exe copied to texexec.exe" is actually "perl texexec.pl". 

> [ Needless to say, I have many executables like "tex" "pdftex"
> "latex" "initex" etc. ]

Actually only two of these are originals: tex and pdftex. Latex is not a
binary but launches tex with a latex format file. Of course there could
be a context, being tex with a context format file, but because context
comes with different user interfaces, this would lead to many contexes.
Furthermore, I don't want to add to much binaries to the tex
distributions and redundant entries to the texmf configuration files.
Texexec will sort this out for you. 

  texexec --make en 

makes an english format cont-en.fmt and puts it in the right place. In
the latest texexec (on beta page) 

  texexec --make --language=pl --bodyfont=plr en 

makes a format that default to the polish language, with polish fonts,
and an english interface. (This feature was added recently after some
discussions behind this list; I still have to update the texexec
manual; texexec version 1.6 also takes care of automatic code page
translation, but texutil must still be adapted to this; translating the
interface/manual to polish is currently discussed). 

  texexec yourfile 

is the way to process a file. Texexec takes care of running tex as many
times as needed to sort out the references, tocs, etc. There are quite
some additional features, like making booklets, etc etc. 

It may look complicated, but you can run context with a rather limited
set of files installed: a pdfetex binary (gives you tex, etex and
pdftex), the plain and etex files, some fonts and related files,
hyphenation patterns, the context zip, the two perl scripts and a
viewer. Most of them are normally part of distributions. (If one uses
context exclusively, one can do without installing latex and redundant
font files, which can save quite some disk space and file searching
overhead). 

I hope this clarifies things a bit. There are manuals on texexec and
texutil on our site. Did you fetch those? 

Hans

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context on miktex

[Hans Hagen]

Hi Walter,

> I apologize for your time since this is a small matter. I have been
> using AMS-LaTeX on UNIX for years and now using MiKTeX\WinEdt. I've
> recently discovered ConTeXT (and pdfTeX and MetaPost) and would like to
> try it out. However, I'm having difficulty getting first of all getting
> it properly installed (how can I tell?) and getting started as a user.
> Do you have any advice or pointers to comprehensive installation and
> user's manual? [I have ActivePerl.]

There are several miktex users on the context list, so I cc this mail
them. 

I still have to update the readme/installation files, but given that you
have tex running, installation should not be that hard. 

(1) make sure you can run texexec from any path (by using a bat file or
the runperl.exe launch program)

(2) rename texexec.rme to texexec.ini, enable the miktex section, make
sure the ini is in the same path as texexec (not needed when using
web2c), check the miktex path definitions in the ini file. 

(3) say: texexec --make to generate a format (--verbose gives a bit more
info)

after that you should be able to run context. 

Hans

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