From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/61148 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "George N. White III" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:11:33 -0300 Message-ID: References: <4C6D045B.2080606@telefonica.net> <4C6D1AC8.506@telefonica.net> <4C6EF697.9030702@telefonica.net> <4C6FE99A.2010204@telefonica.net> <4C7135C1.1070708@telefonica.net> <4C7228E3.2080509@telefonica.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282561910 30610 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2010 11:11:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:11:50 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 23 13:11:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnUwL-0004dk-8n for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715DBCA5ED; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lz79BPVZsiJi; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9D2CA5E1; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E374ECA5E1 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uNDrVTyP1b7Q for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (filter3-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9138CA5C6 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com (mail-wy0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o7NBBYvd010419 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:35 +0200 Original-Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so7604314wyg.14 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=64pe8HEJcxcDWDQaKJF7o65vYFeOeVbRykAiRs7q+W0=; b=kCcCnAgLuuOS2QojYxG27avIOuSJ5OV22vGj34RGuANLPgnCF2xS8J0lmOz5bXyPRF DdRfBXMIrNd0kcvfeqw3gLhTO5tl6TNClSyVYY7osoKAVQFG9t2qwkKFRCavf1ovS7l+ 0IEQs+tYkWjePZR5Ejjym+iPlb3y25SUfupTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YIoMKvFDWP0u2+xKTHsgOCGbui/Vt/giyWEMFpeFOFY1DnBGbf4P6k9Wc/VeTviWyS AexTchs6YdTSoIR+lEseNi8OqK35Crqj47n91IC9ViPikuXwVt0z3XwRQfs3wGDFbSlP M2kCHEnTk83WcxjIMT/y/PmAlg4v1ndXbo6NU= Original-Received: by 10.216.37.193 with SMTP id y43mr4355283wea.59.1282561894568; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.216.79.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:11:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C7228E3.2080509@telefonica.net> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.82.169; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0dCVLbyQ3 - 3822117004bc - 20100823 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:61148 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Xan wrote: > Thanks George of confirming the bug. > In my opinion, the context package has to be ready for running. No > intervention of user should be needed. For the other hand, I have problems > running luatools, so we have a bug: or the first or the second. Many packages require some user configuration before they can be used. Some hide this and do the configuration in the background the first time they are run, which assumes that the configuration is very robust (as you can see, luatools may not yet qualify as a robust tool). I do think the requirement to run luatools should be made more visible to users, e.g., by having the context wrapper script make some checks before attempting to run mtxrun, or by changing mtxrun itself (the advantage of making changes in the wrapper is that they can be more distro specific and point to /usr/share/doc/context/README.MarkIV). As for the 2nd part of the problem, we don't have enough information to know why "luatools --generate" isn't working for you. I'm not sure exactly what you have tried to get it working, but it would be helpful if you can do the following: 1. document the current status: run (as normal user) "luatools --variables", then use the value of TEXMFCACHE for: "ls -lR " (e.g., paste in the value shown for TEXMFCACHE) 2. check that the luatex caches have suitable permissions, or just delete them and try to recreate using a normal user login. -- George N. White III Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________