backgrounds: help needed

backgrounds: help needed

[Peter Münster]

Hello,

I need some text with background, that can break across lines. But the
background must not touch the background of the next line!

\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
inframed does not allow linebreaks:

\def\Bla{\inframed[background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off,
    offset=overlay, backgroundoffset=2pt, location=keep]{%
    FF FF XX XX XX XX XX XX SS CS CS}}
\dorecurse{20}{bla \Bla\ bla}

And textbackground does not allow to seperate the backgrounds of 2 lines:

\definetextbackground[TG][backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off,
  offset=overlay, backgroundoffset=2pt]
\def\Bla{\starttextbackground[TG]FF FF XX XX XX XX XX XX SS CS CS%
  \stoptextbackground}
\dorecurse{20}{bla \Bla\ bla}
\stoptext

Could anybody help please?

TIA for any hints!
Cheer, Peter

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Alan BRASLAU]

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I, too, do not understand the
	\definetextbackground
	\starttextbackground
	\stoptextbackground
commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core-pgr.tex).

My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating examples, set off from the main text.
I first used

\defineframedtext [example] 
	[width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]

\startexample
	...
\stopexample

and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one page.
However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one page
runs off the bottom.
Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried

\definetextbackground [example] 
	[location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
\definestartstop [example] 
	[before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]

but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding state=start, ...) with no success.

Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further documentation or examples of use?
Thanks.

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 20.01.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

> I, too, do not understand the
> \definetextbackground
> \starttextbackground
> \stoptextbackground
> commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core- 
> pgr.tex).
> My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating  
> examples, set off from the main text.
> I first used
> \defineframedtext [example]
> [width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]
> \startexample
> ...
> \stopexample
> and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one  
> page.
> However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one  
> page
> runs off the bottom.
> Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried
> \definetextbackground [example]
> [location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
> \definestartstop [example]
> [before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]
> but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding  
> state=start, ...) with no success.
> Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further  
> documentation or examples of use?


This works for me.

\setupcolors[state=start]

\definetextbackground
   [example]
   [location=paragraph,
    background=color,
    backgroundcolor=middlegray,
    frame=off]

\starttext

\input knuth

\startexample
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\stopexample

\input knuth

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: Something usefull?

[Alan BRASLAU]

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> Take a look at the attached file.

missing:
\setupcolors[state=start]

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Re: Something usefull?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.01.2009 um 13:14 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

> > Take a look at the attached file.
> missing:
> \setupcolors[state=start]

This wasn't in the original file and it's possible Cecil enables
color in his default module.

Wolfgang


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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Alan BRASLAU]

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I am still a bit confused about textbackgrounds.
So I created a wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground
(in order to try to confuse others!)

I have two questions:
1. The live conTeXt of the wiki does not show the background,
whereas the code works using the context minimals.
Why?

2. Setting background=screen as opposed to background=color,backgroundcolor=middlegray
doesn't work (live & minimals). Why?

Can anyone help here? Beyond details.pdf, I have not found many explanations.

Thanks

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.01.2009 um 19:23 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

> I am still a bit confused about textbackgrounds.
> So I created a wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground
> (in order to try to confuse others!)
> I have two questions:
>
> 2. Setting background=screen as opposed to  
> background=color,backgroundcolor=middlegray
> doesn't work (live & minimals). Why?
> Can anyone help here? Beyond details.pdf, I have not found many  
> explanations.

Not supported in textbackground, it works only for framed and  
framedtext.

Wolfgang

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Thomas Floeren]

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Am 20.01.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

> I, too, do not understand the
> \definetextbackground
> \starttextbackground
> \stoptextbackground
> commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core- 
> pgr.tex).
> My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating  
> examples, set off from the main text.
> I first used
> \defineframedtext [example]
> [width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]
> \startexample
> ...
> \stopexample
> and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one  
> page.
> However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one  
> page
> runs off the bottom.
> Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried
> \definetextbackground [example]
> [location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
> \definestartstop [example]
> [before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]
> but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding  
> state=start, ...) with no success.
> Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further  
> documentation or examples of use?


This works for me.

\setupcolors[state=start]

\definetextbackground
   [example]
   [location=paragraph,
    background=color,
    backgroundcolor=middlegray,
    frame=off]

\starttext

\input knuth

\startexample
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\stopexample

\input knuth

\stoptext

Wolfgang



For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.

It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).

Greetings
Thomas

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Floeren
<thomas.floeren@boschung.com> wrote:

> This works for me.
>
> \setupcolors[state=start]
>
> \definetextbackground
>   [example]
>   [location=paragraph,
>    background=color,
>    backgroundcolor=middlegray,
>    frame=off]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
>
> \startexample
> \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
> \stopexample
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang

> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).

MkII or MkIV?

Can you try "texexec --make metafun --standalone".

Wolfgang
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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Thomas Floeren]

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Wolfgang Schuster [mailto:schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 10:12
An: thomas.floeren@boschung.com; mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Floeren
<thomas.floeren@boschung.com> wrote:

> This works for me.
>
> \setupcolors[state=start]
>
> \definetextbackground
>   [example]
>   [location=paragraph,
>    background=color,
>    backgroundcolor=middlegray,
>    frame=off]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
>
> \startexample
> \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
> \stopexample
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang

> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).

MkII or MkIV?

Can you try "texexec --make metafun --standalone".

Wolfgang



MkII.
I just reinstalled the october version; everything ok.
btw: It seems that it still worked fine with a context-beta from 2008-12-01.

Thomas

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
>
> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).

Do you mean 2009-01-18?

Aditya
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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Thomas Floeren]

yes, 2009 of course; 
thanks.

Thomas
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 14:57
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Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
>
> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).

Do you mean 2009-01-18?

Aditya

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 15:08:29 Thomas Floeren wrote:
> yes, 2009 of course; 

> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
> >
> > For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
> >
> > It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
> 
> Do you mean 2009-01-18?
> 
> Aditya

The example works correctly with
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.1.25  int: english/english
as well as with MKII

Alan

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Thomas Floeren]

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 17:04
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Cc: thomas.floeren@boschung.com; 'Aditya Mahajan'
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 15:08:29 Thomas Floeren wrote:
> yes, 2009 of course; 

> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
> >
> > For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
> >
> > It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
> 
> Do you mean 2009-01-18?
> 
> Aditya

The example works correctly with
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.1.25  int: english/english
as well as with MKII

Alan


Thanks for your answer.

I installed the 2009-01-18 yesterday at home on my mac. Everything works
fine!

Now I re-reinstalled the 2009-01-18 on the windows machine at work, and I
get the same result as before: no gray background.
I even did the "texexec --make metafun --standalone" from Wolfgang, but
still no background. 

I noticed that on the win system the <filename>-mpgraph.4000 etc. and
-mpgraph.keep files don't appear at all; they do appear of course with
2008-10-31. Appearently these are holding the code for the background.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance
Thomas

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Re: backgrounds: help needed

[Thomas Floeren]

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Auftrag von Thomas Floeren
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2009 08:14
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Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Alan BRASLAU [mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 17:04
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: thomas.floeren@boschung.com; 'Aditya Mahajan'
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 15:08:29 Thomas Floeren wrote:
> yes, 2009 of course; 

> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
> >
> > For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
> >
> > It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
> 
> Do you mean 2009-01-18?
> 
> Aditya

The example works correctly with
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.1.25  int: english/english
as well as with MKII

Alan


Thanks for your answer.

I installed the 2009-01-18 yesterday at home on my mac. Everything works
fine!

Now I re-reinstalled the 2009-01-18 on the windows machine at work, and I
get the same result as before: no gray background.
I even did the "texexec --make metafun --standalone" from Wolfgang, but
still no background. 

I noticed that on the win system the <filename>-mpgraph.4000 etc. and
-mpgraph.keep files don't appear at all; they do appear of course with
2008-10-31. Appearently these are holding the code for the background.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance
Thomas



Finally I've found the problem.

In the cont-sys files from 2009-01-18 the following two lines are enabled:

\runMPgraphicstrue
\runMPTEXgraphicstrue

(in 2008-10-31 they are still outcommented)


But to make this work on windows a few additional steps were necessary:

1. texexec --make --alone metafun (as Wolfgang already mentioned)

2. copy the new metafun.mem from \Documents and
Settings\username\.texlive2008\texmf-var\web2c\ to the 'normal' texmf
directory (\texlive\2008\texmf-var\web2c\metapost).

3. Enable write18 in the texmf.cnf

4. remake the formats


Greetings
Thomas
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Re: Something usefull?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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\usemodule[defaults]
\setuppagenumbering[location={footer,right}]
\setupbodyfont[roman, 12pt]
\setuppapersize[A7][A4]
\setuplayout[
  backspace=5mm,      footer=1.5\bodyfontsize,                header=5mm,
  height=96.5mm,      margin=5mm,         width=63.5mm,       topspace=4mm,
]
\setuparranging[2*8,rotated]

\def\getTableHours#1%
  {\dorecurse{#1}
     {\setupTABLE[c][each][align=middle,height=\lineheight]
      \setupTABLE[r][1][background=color,backgroundcolor=darkyellow]
      \setupTABLE[c][each][width=0.20\textwidth]
      \setupTABLE[c][2,4][width=0.30\textwidth]
      \dontleavehmode\vskip-\dimexpr\lineheight+\topskip\relax\par
      \startalignment[middle]
      \bTABLE
        \bTR
        \dorecurse{2}{\bTH Type \eTH \bTH Tijd \eTH}
        \eTR
        \getnoflines{\dimexpr\pagegoal-\pagetotal-3\lineheight\relax}
        \dorecurse{\noflines}{\bTR\dorecurse{4}{\bTD \eTD}\eTR}
      \eTABLE
      \stopalignment
      \page}}

% \def\getTableToDo
%   {\dorecurse{\number\numexpr16-\realpageno+1\relax}
%      {\dontleavehmode\vskip-\dimexpr\lineheight+\topskip\relax\par
%       \vbox to \vsize{\leaders\vbox{\thinrule}\vfill}\page}}

\def\getTableToDo
  {\dorecurse{\number\numexpr16-\realpageno+1\relax}
     {\dontleavehmode\vskip-\dimexpr\lineheight+\topskip\relax\par
      \getroundednoflines\textheight
      \thinrules[n=\noflines]\page}}


\starttext

  \getTableHours{8}

  \setuppagenumber[number=1]

  \getTableToDo

\stoptext

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Am 24.01.2009 um 13:46 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

> I made something usefull and share it with you. Maybe it is usefull
> for other people also.

[...]

> I also have some questions. ;-}
> At the moment there are the same number of the timesheet and the lined
> paper printed. That is not always what you want I think. The one time
> you need more timesheets, the other time you need more lined paper. Is
> there a way to ask for the number of timesheets, print those, and let
> the rest be printed as lined? (I can offcourse also switch to two
> different documents.)
> At the moment the lined paper starts counting from 9. Is there a way
> to reset it to 1?

Take a look at the attached file.

Wolfgang


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Something usefull?

[Cecil Westerhof]

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I made something usefull and share it with you. Maybe it is usefull
for other people also.

Sometimes I switch a lot from tasks. Still I need to keep a good log
of time spend on the different tasks. For this I made the first table.
When I switch I can now log easily the new task and the time of the
switch. And at the end of the day I can easily get a running total pro
task.

The second task is for writing down short notes. I used a table to get
lined A7 paper.

I have still some work to do on it. For example the tables are to
close to edge and the tables stop to soon. But I think it is good
enough to 'publish'.

I also have some questions. ;-}
At the moment there are the same number of the timesheet and the lined
paper printed. That is not always what you want I think. The one time
you need more timesheets, the other time you need more lined paper. Is
there a way to ask for the number of timesheets, print those, and let
the rest be printed as lined? (I can offcourse also switch to two
different documents.)
At the moment the lined paper starts counting from 9. Is there a way
to reset it to 1?

-- 
Cecil Westerhof

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