From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36359 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: fonts from scratch: what's the way? 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I'm starting my first "core" project with ConTeXt. We have a review here at the university which has been published =20 until now by a publisher. As we are having bad typography and bad =20 distribution, and, more, we have to pay for these two services, we =20 are moving it to the web as a series of downloadable pdfs (maybe with =20= Lulu support). Obviously I've proposed ConTeXt. Now: - I think I can manage the project organization as I have already =20 done it for other projects following http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Project_structure - I think I can define style, format etc using the manuals and the =20 list archive and support But: Fonts are really a mysterious topics. Because of this facts, I have =20 always used default ones. As far as I have understood, The Mk IV =20 issue should simplify the situation but (I really don't want to be =20 indelicate) this is really a horror film for a newbie: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV I'm using TeXLive installation on a macosx (mactex: http://=20 www.tug.org/mactex/) So: - should I know something about the metrics and other trickery? In =20 that case, really a picture is worth ten thousand words. - how do I know which fonts are installed by the distro? AFAIK, it =20 seems that this is a fairly complicated topic. Which seems to be =20 pretty bizarre, because if they are unusable, why should they be =20 installed? Experimenting with \enableregime[mac] \usetypescript[berry][ec] % or [8r] \usetypescript[palatino][ec] % \definetypeface[bookman][rm][serif][bookman][default][encoding=3Dec] \usetypescript[berry][ec] % or [8r] \definetypeface[charter][rm][serif][charter][default][encoding=3Dec] \starttext \setupbodyfont[palatino] =E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9 \setupbodyfont[pos] =E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9 \setupbodyfont[bookman] =E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9 \setupbodyfont[charter] =E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9 \stoptext (from http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html#intro) Seems to work but I don't know why and how... - so, excluding "secret" pre-installed fonts, what I have to do to =20 choose a (free) font ? - and how do I install it on my machine? - I.e.: what have I to do? Stay on mark II or switch to mark IV? This =20= "mark" issue has confused me a lot more...:) I think a real tutorial on the font subject is lacking. All the =20 available infos () in some way require IMHO a relevant knowledge So I am solemnly saying that I will wikify the discussion... Many thanks Best -a- -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who =20= doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this =20 guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with =20 me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss =20 Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) --Apple-Mail-53-100063567 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi to all,

after some "eccentric" = projects (musical notation, presentations, posters...) I'm starting my = first "core"=A0 project with ConTeXt.
We=A0have a review here = at the university which has been published until now=A0 by a publisher. = As we are having bad typography and bad distribution, and, more, we have = to pay for these two services, we are moving it to the web as a series = of downloadable pdfs (maybe with Lulu support).
Obviously I've = proposed ConTeXt.

Now:
-=A0I think = I can manage the project organization as I have already done it for = other projects following=A0=A0

- I think I can define = style, format etc using the manuals and the list archive and = support

But:

Fonts are really a = mysterious topics. Because of this facts, I have always used default = ones. As far as I have understood, The Mk IV issue should simplify the = situation but (I really don't want to be indelicate) this is really a = horror film for a newbie:

I'm using TeXLive = installation on a macosx (mactex: http://www.tug.org/mactex/)
<= DIV>So:

- = should I know something about the metrics and other trickery? In that = case, really a picture is worth ten thousand words.
- how do I = know which fonts are installed by the distro? AFAIK, it seems that this = is a fairly complicated topic. Which seems to be pretty bizarre, because = if they are unusable, why should they be installed?=A0

Experimenting = with=A0

\enableregime[mac]
= \usetypescript[berry][ec] % or = [8r]
\usetypescript[palatino][ec] = %
\definetypeface[bookman][rm][serif][bookman][default][encoding= =3Dec]
\usetypescript[berry][ec] % or = [8r]
\definetypeface[charter][rm][serif][charter][default][encod= ing=3Dec]

\starttext
\setupbo= dyfont[palatino]
=E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9


\setupbodyfont[pos]
=E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9


\setupbodyfont[bookman]
=
=E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9


\setupbodyfont[charter]
=
=E7=E8=F2=EE=E0=F9=E9

\stoptext

Seems to work but I don't = know why and how...

- so, excluding "secret" = pre-installed fonts, what I have to do to choose a (free) font = ?
-=A0and how do I install it on my machine?
- I.e.: = what have I to do? Stay on mark II or switch to mark IV? This "mark" = issue has confused me a lot more...:)=A0

I think a real tutorial on = the font subject is lacking. All the available infos () in some way = require IMHO a relevant knowledge
So I am solemnly saying that = I will wikify the discussion...

Many thanks

Best

-a-


http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just = mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in = university, right? I was in this strip = club giving this guy a lap = dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault = with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can = discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much = information.
(Annabel = Chong)



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