* Initials / DroppedCaps
@ 2011-12-13 12:08 Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!):
\def\Initial{\DroppedCaps%
{\color[red]} {Serif} {2.5\baselineskip} {3pt} {2\baselineskip} {3}}
\starttext
\Initial Once upon a time... \input tufte
\stoptext
But that gives now:
<to be read again>
\unskip
\\->\ifhmode \unskip
\prewordbreak \crlfplaceholder \ifcase
\raggedstatus \h...
\somefontsize ->2.5\\
baselineskip
\lowleveldefinefont ...aledfontsize \somefontsize
\or \scaledfontsize
\local...
\dododefinefont ...inefont {#2}\rawfontidentifier
\csname
\rawfontidentifier...
\dodefinedfont ...nedfont][#1]\fi \thedefinedfont
\the
\everydefinedfont
...
l.7 \Initial O
nce upon a time... \input tufte
It works, if I use absolute values for font size and vertical offset,
like
\def\Initial{\DroppedCaps%
{\color[red]} {Serif} {36pt} {3pt} {28pt} {3}}
I also tried \setupinitial / \placeinitial like below; I got my
defined font, but only ever in base font size.
%\definefontsynonym[Initial][WieynkInitialen]
\setupinitial[font=WieynkInitialen,n=3,state=start,command=\Initial] %
I also tried \NiceDroppedCaps and \LineDroppedCaps that I found in the
sources, but didn’t get further.
So, what’s the preferred way to get dropped capitals / initials?
I’d like to wikify that, since it seems nowhere documented.
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 12:08 Initials / DroppedCaps Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2011-12-13 13:17 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 13.12.2011 um 13:08 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: > For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!): > > \def\Initial{\DroppedCaps% > {\color[red]} {Serif} {2.5\baselineskip} {3pt} {2\baselineskip} {3}} > > \starttext > \Initial Once upon a time... \input tufte > \stoptext \setupbodyfont[pagella] \setupinitial [color=red] \starttext \placeinitial Once upon a time... \input tufte \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 13:17 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2011-12-13 13:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 2011-12-13 um 13:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > \setupbodyfont[pagella] > > \setupinitial > [color=red] > > \starttext > \placeinitial Once upon a time... \input tufte > \stoptext Grmbl, I would have sworn that didn’t work before! But it does. Thank you! Am 2011-12-13 um 13:38 schrieb Hans Hagen: > Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an > argument which is more robust). The old macros will probably be > removed (or end up in a module). > > \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start] Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/ baselineskip? "state=start" doesn’t seem necessary, it works without. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 13:17 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 13:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2011-12-13 13:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 13.12.2011 um 14:17 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: > Am 2011-12-13 um 13:38 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >> Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an argument which is more robust). The old macros will probably be removed (or end up in a module). >> >> \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start] > > Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/baselineskip? \setupinitial[font=Bold sa 4] Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 13:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 13:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2011-12-13 13:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 2011-12-13 um 14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >> Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/ >> baselineskip? > > \setupinitial[font=Bold sa 4] Thank you, I feel stupid. Works for me, but not in the wiki (I can’t get colors there, too). http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 13:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 13:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2011-12-13 15:34 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 13.12.2011 um 14:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: > Am 2011-12-13 um 14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > >>> Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/baselineskip? >> >> \setupinitial[font=Bold sa 4] > > Thank you, I feel stupid. > Works for me, but not in the wiki (I can’t get colors there, too). > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials The wiki use MkII and you have to enable colors first. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 13:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 15:34 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 2011-12-13 um 14:50 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >> Works for me, but not in the wiki (I can’t get colors there, too). >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials > The wiki use MkII and you have to enable colors first. I did enable colors, but don’t get any. Maybe the color switch is not in the MkII version. Am 2011-12-13 um 15:15 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: > Hmm, I did not realize that dropped caps were still supported in > MkIV base so I've been using > \usemodule[lettrine] > which also lets you set not only dropped caps but the next couple of > words or so in another font -- such as small caps. > > Henning: Maybe you can try lettrines as well and compare them, see > which works best for what you're trying to do ... Here is a sample > for you to play with Thank you for the hint, but I only need that one dropped cap. Even if the first line/sentence in small caps looks very classical, I don’t really like it. I added your example to the wiki page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 12:08 Initials / DroppedCaps Henning Hraban Ramm 2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen 2011-12-13 14:15 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-13 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm On 13-12-2011 13:08, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!): > ... > So, what’s the preferred way to get dropped capitals / initials? > I’d like to wikify that, since it seems nowhere documented. Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an argument which is more robust). The old macros will probably be removed (or end up in a module). \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start] \starttext \placeinitial \input tufte \placeinitial \input ward \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-13 14:15 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 2011-12-13 14:35 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2011-12-13 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen, hraban On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:38:09 -0700, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > > On 13-12-2011 13:08, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!): > > ... >> So, what’s the preferred way to get dropped capitals / initials? >> I’d like to wikify that, since it seems nowhere documented. > > Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an argument > which is more robust). The old macros will probably be removed (or end > up in a module). > > \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start] > > \starttext > > \placeinitial \input tufte > > \placeinitial \input ward > > \stoptext Hmm, I did not realize that dropped caps were still supported in MkIV base so I've been using \usemodule[lettrine] which also lets you set not only dropped caps but the next couple of words or so in another font -- such as small caps. Hans: Does the \setupinitial also allow to set the words immediately after in \sc etc? Henning: Maybe you can try lettrines as well and compare them, see which works best for what you're trying to do ... Here is a sample for you to play with =========== \usemodule[lettrine] \def \LettrineStyle{\definefontsynonym[LettrineFont][Italic]} \setuplettrine [A][Lines=2,Findent=0.2em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle}] \setuplettrine [T][Lines=2,Findent=0.35em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle},Hang=.25] \setuplettrine [I][Lines=2,Findent=0.3em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle},Hang=.25] \setuplettrine [O][Lines=2,Findent=0.2em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle}] \setuplettrine [C][Lines=2,Findent=0.3em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle}] \setuplettrine [W][Lines=2,Findent=0.3em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle},Hang=.34] \starttext \lettrine{A}{fter the three} \input ward \stoptext =========== Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shīʿī Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps 2011-12-13 14:15 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2011-12-13 14:35 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-13 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, hraban On 13-12-2011 15:15, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: > Hmm, I did not realize that dropped caps were still supported in MkIV > base so I've been using it is but not as pure macro but a lua hybrid > which also lets you set not only dropped caps but the next couple of > words or so in another font -- such as small caps. > > Hans: Does the \setupinitial also allow to set the words immediately > after in \sc etc? no, but it's doable (need a good reason for it) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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