[OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Andrea Valle]

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Hi to all and sorry for the OT,

but here on the list there are some of the most competent people I  
know on the topic.
I will start a course on graphic communication. The students are  
ground-zero programmers, all on mac, so I would like to use Nodebox  
(http://nodebox.net/).
(Unluckily no time/space to introduce ConTeXt).
I will focus on data visualization, so I was considering to adopt  
Tufte's classic The Visual Display etc. I've still not read  
Envisioning Information and Visual Explanations.
Any ideas?
I will have also to introduce basic elements of graphic communication  
(e.g. fonts, page composition, color usage etc).
Suggestions?

Many thanks!

Best

-a-


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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)




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Andrea Valle
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CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[John Luciani]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>  Hi to all and sorry for the OT,
>
> but here on the list there are some of the most competent people I know on
> the topic.
> I will start a course on graphic communication. The students are ground-zero
> programmers, all on mac, so I would like to use Nodebox
> (http://nodebox.net/).
> (Unluckily no time/space to introduce ConTeXt).
> I will focus on data visualization, so I was considering to adopt Tufte's
> classic The Visual Display etc. I've still not read Envisioning Information
> and Visual Explanations.
> Any ideas?
> I will have also to introduce basic elements of graphic communication (e.g.
> fonts, page composition, color usage etc).
> Suggestions?

You may want to ask this question at tufte.com

You will probably also find some references in the books you site.

Also at the Tufte lecture there is a recommended reading list handout.
There should be a copy online.

(* jcl *)


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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Andrea,

http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/0881792063/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203600674&sr=8-1

is fundamental and indispensable (Zapf calls it the Typographer's Bible),  
but if your class is in Italian...

Best wishes
Idris

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:00:07 -0700, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:

> Hi to all and sorry for the OT,
>
> but here on the list there are some of the most competent people I
> know on the topic.
> I will start a course on graphic communication. The students are
> ground-zero programmers, all on mac, so I would like to use Nodebox
> (http://nodebox.net/).
> (Unluckily no time/space to introduce ConTeXt).
> I will focus on data visualization, so I was considering to adopt
> Tufte's classic The Visual Display etc. I've still not read
> Envisioning Information and Visual Explanations.
> Any ideas?
> I will have also to introduce basic elements of graphic communication
> (e.g. fonts, page composition, color usage etc).

-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Andrea Valle]

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Thanks, I'll check the site

Best

-a-

On 21 Feb 2008, at 14:31, John Luciani wrote:

> tufte.com

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Università degli Studi di Torino
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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Andrea Valle]

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Ah, thanks Idris, I was thinking about it. My class is in Italian but  
for a cosmopolitan audience, so English is ok.

Best

-a-


On 21 Feb 2008, at 14:33, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/ 
> dp/0881792063/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203600674&sr=8-1
>
> is fundamental and indispensable (Zapf calls it the Typographer's  
> Bible),
> but if your class is in Italian...
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
>
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:00:07 -0700, Andrea Valle  
> <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>
>> Hi to all and sorry for the OT,
>>
>> but here on the list there are some of the most competent people I
>> know on the topic.
>> I will start a course on graphic communication. The students are
>> ground-zero programmers, all on mac, so I would like to use Nodebox
>> (http://nodebox.net/).
>> (Unluckily no time/space to introduce ConTeXt).
>> I will focus on data visualization, so I was considering to adopt
>> Tufte's classic The Visual Display etc. I've still not read
>> Envisioning Information and Visual Explanations.
>> Any ideas?
>> I will have also to introduce basic elements of graphic communication
>> (e.g. fonts, page composition, color usage etc).
>
> -- 
> Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
> International Journal of Shi`i Studies
> Department of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80523
>
> --
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Andrea Valle
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Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)





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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Jeff Smith]

Great links and tips there, but last week I also found this. It's
called "54 Typography Resources Every Designer Should Bookmark".

http://www.digipills.com/tinylink/ajout.php

A couple of links there too, and articles.

Jeff Smith

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>  Thanks, I'll check the site
>
> Best
>
> -a-
>
>
> On 21 Feb 2008, at 14:31, John Luciani wrote:
>
>
> tufte.com
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Andrea Valle
> --------------------------------------------------
> CIRMA - DAMS
> Università degli Studi di Torino
> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
> --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
> --> andrea.valle@unito.it
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "
> Think of it as seasoning
> . noise [salt] is boring
> . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
> . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
> "
> (Ken Perlin on noise)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Andrea Valle]

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You mean this, I guess:
http://bloggingbits.com/54-typography-resources-every-designer-should- 
bookmark/

Thanks!

-a-


On 21 Feb 2008, at 17:22, Jeff Smith wrote:

> Great links and tips there, but last week I also found this. It's
> called "54 Typography Resources Every Designer Should Bookmark".
>
> http://www.digipills.com/tinylink/ajout.php
>
> A couple of links there too, and articles.
>
> Jeff Smith
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it>  
> wrote:
>>  Thanks, I'll check the site
>>
>> Best
>>
>> -a-
>>
>>
>> On 21 Feb 2008, at 14:31, John Luciani wrote:
>>
>>
>> tufte.com
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Andrea Valle
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> CIRMA - DAMS
>> Università degli Studi di Torino
>> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
>> --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
>> --> andrea.valle@unito.it
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "
>> Think of it as seasoning
>> . noise [salt] is boring
>> . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
>> . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
>> "
>> (Ken Perlin on noise)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>> ______________
>>  If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an  
>> entry to
>> the Wiki!
>>
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>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>> ______________
>>
>>
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--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

[Jeff Smith]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>  You mean this, I guess:
> http://bloggingbits.com/54-typography-resources-every-designer-should-bookmark/

Oh, yes, I wanted to use TinyLink so the mail wouldn't wrap that link
on two lines, but I copy-pasted TinyLink's homepage instead! Oops!
Thanks for noticing quickly. :-)

Jeff
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