a sort of marking

a sort of marking

[Andrea Valle]

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Hi to all,

I have a manual. It's A5 to be printed in A4 (so to cut in the middle  
the A4 page).
I'd like to have a cue like a marking to be able to cut exactly in  
the middle.
\setuplayout[marking=on] does not print anything useful for the case.

I've thought about \showframe[text=off, margin=off] but it creates a  
green border all around.

Ideas?

Many thanks

-a-


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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: a sort of marking

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>  Hi to all,
>
> I have a manual. It's A5 to be printed in A4 (so to cut in the middle the A4
> page).
> I'd like to have a cue like a marking to be able to cut exactly in the
> middle.
> \setuplayout[marking=on] does not print anything useful for the case.
>
> I've thought about \showframe[text=off, margin=off] but it creates a green
> border all around.
>
> Ideas?

1) Why don't you play with \startTEXpage ?

2) Andare a dormire :) ?


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Re: a sort of marking

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> I have a manual. It's A5 to be printed in A4 (so to cut in the middle the A4
> page).
> I'd like to have a cue like a marking to be able to cut exactly in the
> middle.
> \setuplayout[marking=on] does not print anything useful for the case.
>
> I've thought about \showframe[text=off, margin=off] but it creates a green
> border all around.

\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuplayout[location=middle]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]

%\setupbackgrounds[page][leftframe=on]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
\setupbackgrounds[leftpage][leftframe=on]

\starttext
\dorecurse{100}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext

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Re: a sort of marking

[Andrea Valle]

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> 1) Why don't you play with \startTEXpage ?

Because I don't know how does it work....

>
> 2) Andare a dormire :) ?


Io ci sono andato!

:)
-a-


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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: a sort of marking

[Andrea Valle]

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Thanks Wolfgang
>
>
> %\setupbackgrounds[page][leftframe=on]
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
> \setupbackgrounds[leftpage][leftframe=on]
>


Could you please explain what's going on here?
I cannot understand why \setuppagenumbering is relevant for such a  
behavior

Best

-a-



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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)




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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: a sort of marking

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>
>
> 1) Why don't you play with \startTEXpage ?
>
> Because I don't know how does it work....
$> cd tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base
$> grep   startTEXpage  *

(hint: see page-app.tex)
Use the source, luke !

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Re: a sort of marking

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
> Thanks Wolfgang
>
> %\setupbackgrounds[page][leftframe=on]
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
> \setupbackgrounds[leftpage][leftframe=on]
>
> Could you please explain what's going on here?
> I cannot understand why \setuppagenumbering is relevant for such a behavior

You could either use only

\setupbackgrounds[page][leftframe=on]

this will draw a rule at the the left margin at all pages.

The result is something like

|          |
|          |
|    1     |     2
|          |
|          |


The second solution draws only a frame at the left margin
on even numbered pages.

Because odd and even numbered are only known in doublesided
documents, the value "singlesided,doublesided" arguments for
alternative in \setuppagenumbering is a little bit special because
it activates left and right pages but use the same layout for all
pages.

I used it here to draw only a frame on the right page of the printed
paper to avoid a unwanted rule at the side of the left page.

The output for two pages should now look like:

          |
          |
    1     |     2
          |
          |

Wolfgang
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Re: a sort of marking

[Andrea Valle]

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Thanks Wolfgang.

Hmm, your example work.
But it does not if I include it my environment

?

-a-


\startenvironment env_scMaterials
\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[it]
\setupinteraction[state=start]

%\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]

%%%

%% the original format
%\setuppapersize[A5][A5]

%% two pages side by side
%\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]
%\setuparranging[2SIDE]


%% print:
\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]
\setuparranging[2*2]  %% print in A4 double sided, cut pages and bind
%% WHAT I HAVE ADDED
\setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
\setupbackgrounds[leftpage][leftframe=on]
%% end print

\setupcolors[state=start]

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Colors %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

%% SC colors %%
\definecolor [SCwhite] [r=1.0, g=1.0, b=1.0]
\definecolor [SCblack] [r=0.0, g=0.0, b=0.0]
\definecolor [SCblue] [r=0.0, g=0.0, b=0.75]
\definecolor [SCred] [r=0.75, g=0.0, b=0.0]

\definecolor [SCgrey] [r=0.376, g=0.376, b=0.376]
\definecolor [SCgreen] [r=0.0, g=0.45, b=0.0]
%%%%%%%%%%%%

%% CIRMA colors %%
\definecolor[cirmaBlue] [r=.0,g=.2,b=.6]
%\definecolor[cirmaGrey] [r=.2,g=.2,b=.2] %lighter follows
\definecolor[cirmaGrey] [r=.3,g=.3,b=.3]
\definecolor[cirmaOrange] [r=1,g=.6,b=.0]
% another grey
\definecolor[bgGrey] [r=.9,g=.9,b=.9]
%%%%%%%%%%%%

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%




%% Define the color for bodyfont
\definecolor [fontColor][black]

\setupfootertexts[{\color[cirmaBlue]\tfxx  Andrea Valle \hfill  
tSCIRMA }]
\setuppagenumbering[location=footer, sectionnumber=yes, state=start]

\setupfooter[state=start]


\setuphead[chapter]
[style=\ss\tfc, before={\startframedtext[width=local,  
foregroundcolor=white, background=color, backgroundcolor=cirmaBlue,  
framecolor=cirmaOrange,offset=.25cm,
rulethickness=0.05cm, frame=off, topframe=on,  bottomframe=on]},after= 
{\stopframedtext\blank[.25\textheight]},
]




\setuphead[section][style=\ss\tfb, before={\startframedtext[frame=off] 
\color[cirmaGrey]}, after={\color[cirmaBlue]\textrule\color[fontColor] 
\stopframedtext}]


\setuphead[subsection][style=\ss\tfb,before={\startframedtext 
[frame=off]\color[cirmaGrey]}, after={\color[cirmaOrange]\textrule 
\color[fontColor]\stopframedtext}]


\setupframedtexts[width=local, framecolor=cirmaOrange]

\setuplayout[marking=on, margin=0pt, width=fit]
%[width=fit,
%              rightmargin=1.5cm,
%              leftmargin=1.5cm,
%              leftmargindistance=0pt,
%              rightmargindistance=0pt,
%              height=fit,
%              header=0pt,
%              footer=20pt,
%              topspace=1.5cm,
%              backspace=1.5cm,
%%              cutspace=1.5cm,
%              bottomspace=8pt,
%              location=singlesided]


%\setupfootertexts[{\color[blue]\tfxx  a.a. 2005-06 \hfill Andrea  
Valle \type{<}andrea.valle@unito.it\type{>} \hfill \currentdate}]

%\setupfooter[state=stop]

\setupcombinations[distance=5pt]

%\setupframed[frame=on,height=.9\textheight,width=.9\textwidth,top= 
\vss,bottom=\vss,align=right]

%%\setuplabels[]
%\setupcaption[figure][number=no]

\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][rm][Xserif][Palatino]
\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][ss][Xsans][Optima]

\setupbodyfont[tSCIRMA, 10pt]

%\setupbodyfont[sansserif]
\setuptyping[color=black] %% redundant?


%%%% Some defs %%%%%%%%

\define[1]\Note{\blank{\tt [Lavori in corso:  #1]}\blank}
\define[1]\Code{{\tt #1}}
\define[1]\Line{\startnarrower\tfx\startlines\blank{\tt #1}\blank 
\stoplines\tfa\stopnarrower}
\define[1]\Url{\startnarrower #1 \stopnarrower}
%%%%%%
\define[1]\Ex{\tfx \input code/#1 \tfa}
% "code" folder is where you put the examples
% code must be ascii and result from processing
% .sc files (ASCII, not rtf) in scToConTeXt.py
% usage: \Ex{testSC}
%%%%%%




% stolen from wiki

% different colors for frame in code and interpreter

\defineframedtext
   [framedSC]
   [framecolor=cirmaBlue,
    strut=yes,
    offset=2mm,
    width=local,
    align=right]

\definetyping[SC][option=commands,
					tab=2,numbering=line,
					bodyfont=4pt, %% does not work: ?
                     before={\startframedSC\tfx},
                     after={\tfa\stopframedSC}]




\defineframedtext
   [framedcode]
   [framecolor=cirmaOrange,
    strut=yes,
    offset=2mm,
    width=local,
    align=right]

\definetyping[code][numbering=line,
                     bodyfont=8pt,
                     before={\startframedcode\tfx},
                     after={\tfa\stopframedcode}]

\defineenumeration
[Osservazione]
[location=top,
text=Osservazione,
inbetween=\blank,
after=\blank]


\stopenvironment


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--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: a sort of marking

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
> Thanks Wolfgang.
>
> Hmm, your example work.
> But it does not if I include it my environment

What setting do you use in your environment, you have many different settings
and I don't know which one of them do you use. Make a minimal example
(no section formatting, no typing ...) and post this with a sample text.

BTW: The argument for \startenvironment is space delimited and you should better
write "\startenvironment env_scMaterials " or make a new line after the title
of the environment.

Wolfgang
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Re: a sort of marking

[Andrea Valle]

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>
> What setting do you use in your environment, you have many  
> different settings
> and I don't know which one of them do you use.

The one which is not commented.

> Make a minimal example
> (no section formatting, no typing ...) and post this with a sample  
> text.

ok

>
> BTW: The argument for \startenvironment is space delimited and you  
> should better
> write "\startenvironment env_scMaterials " or make a new line after  
> the title
> of the environment.

I wasn't aware of it. I thought there was a line break

Thanks

-a-





>
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Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: a sort of marking

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:
>
> What setting do you use in your environment, you have many different
> settings
> and I don't know which one of them do you use.
>
> The one which is not commented.

I thought you want to arrange the pages with the "2SIDE" command but what
do you use is "2*2" and the in this case rightpage needs a frame on
the left side.

The setupbackgrounds command is now:

\setupbackgrounds[rightpage][leftframe=on]

Wolfgang
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Re: a sort of marking

[Andrea Valle]

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Thanks Wolfgang,

it works perfectly

May thanks

-a-

On 9 Apr 2008, at 11:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it>  
> wrote:
>>
>> What setting do you use in your environment, you have many different
>> settings
>> and I don't know which one of them do you use.
>>
>> The one which is not commented.
>
> I thought you want to arrange the pages with the "2SIDE" command  
> but what
> do you use is "2*2" and the in this case rightpage needs a frame on
> the left side.
>
> The setupbackgrounds command is now:
>
> \setupbackgrounds[rightpage][leftframe=on]
>
> Wolfgang
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--------------------------------------------------
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"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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