From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/23897 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans van der Meer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: blackboard bold and calligraphic Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:46:07 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133208934 11340 80.91.229.2 (28 Nov 2005 20:15:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Nov 28 21:15:15 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgpL4-0007Kq-2P for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:11:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54D6128AF; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:11:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12155-03-5; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:10:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E165D128BB; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:10:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466AC128BB for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:10:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12155-03-4 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:10:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.science.uva.nl (smtp.science.uva.nl [146.50.4.84]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66166128AF for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:10:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from 119-75.uva.surfnetthuis.nl [145.98.119.75] by smtp.science.uva.nl with ESMTP (sendmail 8.11.6p2/config 11.35). id jASKAfI07401; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:10:41 +0100 X-Organisation: Faculty of Science, University of Amsterdam, The Netherlands X-URL: http://www.science.uva.nl/ Original-To: NTG ConTeXt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:23897 Archived-At: BLACKBOARD There is a problem with the Blackboard symbols, when used in regular and bold forms both. In the Lucida fontset there is a regular series in lbma (or hlcra), and a bold series in font lbmad (or hlcda). As I understand from the current code, switching from regular to bold should be accompanied by a switch from Blackboard to something like BlackboardBold in the command \bbd (from the sources I guess \bbd in font-ini.tex is the most basic macro here). The problem is that \bbd is defined as: \def\bbd {\mathortext{\fam\purefamily {blackboard}}{\symbolicfont {Blackboard}}} Thus the font is hardcoded to regular Blackboard. I have no idea what should be the best strategy to repair this. As for now, the most general mechanism for switching to other/bold math fontfamilies I could find is using \bfmath (and friends). The font needed is in one of the math font registers, of course, so something like {\ma CNRZ} instead of {\bbd CNRZ} will do. But this low level code makes the TeX text source explicitely dependent on the font; for example in the AMS-series these characters are found in msmb, usually ending up in \ma. Is there some generic solution here? CALLIGRAPHIC There is a similar problem with $\cal ...$ It is defined as \def\cal {\mathortext{\fam\purefamily{calligraphic}}{\symbolicfont {Calligraphic}}} I definded font "Calligraphic" but here ConTeXt does not seem to use it in math mode. The calligraphic symbols appear to be taken from the sy (symbol) math family instead of the Calligraphic font. It is a problem, because in the font I am using the calligraphic letters are in another font. Typesetting ${\cal XYZ}\hbox{\cal XYZ}$ gives the wrong characters from the symbol font in the first case, the correct letters in the second. How can this be solved? yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer