* backward compatibility broken !
@ 2007-09-10 9:11 Steffen Wolfrum
2007-09-10 9:26 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-09-10 9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.09
13:04 MKII:
Runaway argument?
liche Laufbahn
! Paragraph ended before \next was complete.
<to be read again>
\par
l.12
?
The phrase causing the trouble is:
erste beruf"|liche Laufbahn
Is "| not working anymore?
Hopefully there is a successor that works the same way – and please
(!) doesn't change the line-/page-breaks???
Steffen
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* Re: backward compatibility broken !
2007-09-10 9:11 backward compatibility broken ! Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2007-09-10 9:26 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-10 9:40 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-09-10 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.09
> 13:04 MKII:
Fetch
http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/87/cont-tmf-20041217.zip
This is exactly what the museum is for.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: backward compatibility broken !
2007-09-10 9:26 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2007-09-10 9:40 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2007-09-10 11:38 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-09-10 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Taco,
Am 10.09.2007 um 11:26 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.09
>> 13:04 MKII:
>
> Fetch
>
> http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/87/cont-tmf-20041217.zip
>
> This is exactly what the museum is for.
First:
Great – the old books are saved!
(Jesus Christ ... )
Second:
The "| was extremely important for contexting german texts (because
of our huge amount of false ligatures).
Why is it not supported anymore (or at least replaced)??
Steffen
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* Re: backward compatibility broken !
2007-09-10 9:40 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2007-09-10 11:38 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-10 16:40 ` close-up (was: backward compatibility ... ) Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-09-10 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/9/10, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
> Hi Taco,
>
> Am 10.09.2007 um 11:26 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
>
> > Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
> >>
> >> Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.09
> >> 13:04 MKII:
> >
> > Fetch
> >
> > http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/87/cont-tmf-20041217.zip
> >
> > This is exactly what the museum is for.
>
>
> First:
> Great – the old books are saved!
> (Jesus Christ ... )
>
>
> Second:
> The "| was extremely important for contexting german texts (because
> of our huge amount of false ligatures).
> Why is it not supported anymore (or at least replaced)??
>
> Steffen
Hi Steffen,
this did also work in a current ConTeXt but " is no longer a active
character and you have to enable this feature by yourself.
\useencoding[fde]
\mainlanguage[de]
\starttext
erste beruf"|liche Laufbahn
\stoptext
You should write now in your documents "erste beruf|*|liche Laufbahn".
Wolfgang
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* close-up (was: backward compatibility ... )
2007-09-10 11:38 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-09-10 16:40 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2007-09-11 6:38 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-09-10 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 10.09.2007 um 13:38 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> You should write now in your documents "erste beruf|*|liche Laufbahn".
Please take a close-up at the minimal below.
There are three components: hyphenation, ligatures and space in
ligatures.
Up to now I couldn't find the *right* solution, where all three are
correct.
Maybe some wizards know?
Steffen
\usetypescript[postscript][\defaultencoding]
\setupencoding[default=texnansi]
\mainlanguage[deo]
\enableregime[mac]
\setupbodyfont[postscript,36pt]
\starttext
\showframe
%Auflagen {\txx the fl-ligature is wrong here}
%Auf\-lagen {\txx the right fl for false ligatures!}
%Auf\/lagen {\txx this is too much space in fl}
%Auf|*|lagen {\txx this is too much space in fl}
1234567890 Auflagen Auflagen {\txx right hyphenation, but wrong
ligature\break - -}
1234567890 Auf\-lagen Auf\-lagen
1234567890 Auf\/lagen Auf\/lagen {\txx these -- and also \verbatim
{Auf|\-|lagen} -- kill the other hyphenation Aufla-gen. Esp ugly for
long words ... \break - -}
1234567890 Auf|*|lagen Auf|*|lagen {\txx right hyphenation, but too
much space in fl\break - -}
% for the right space between fl see also ff:
Auf\-fangen {\txx perfect!}
Auf\/fangen {\txx too much space}
Auf|*|fangen {\txx too much space}
\stoptext
\stoptext
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* Re: close-up (was: backward compatibility ... )
2007-09-10 16:40 ` close-up (was: backward compatibility ... ) Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2007-09-11 6:38 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-11 10:02 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-09-11 6:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/9/10, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
>
> Am 10.09.2007 um 13:38 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> > You should write now in your documents "erste beruf|*|liche Laufbahn".
>
>
> Please take a close-up at the minimal below.
> There are three components: hyphenation, ligatures and space in
> ligatures.
>
> Up to now I couldn't find the *right* solution, where all three are
> correct.
>
> Maybe some wizards know?
>
> Steffen
>
>
>
> \usetypescript[postscript][\defaultencoding]
> \setupencoding[default=texnansi]
> \mainlanguage[deo]
> \enableregime[mac]
> \setupbodyfont[postscript,36pt]
>
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> %Auflagen {\txx the fl-ligature is wrong here}
>
> %Auf\-lagen {\txx the right fl for false ligatures!}
>
> %Auf\/lagen {\txx this is too much space in fl}
>
> %Auf|*|lagen {\txx this is too much space in fl}
>
>
> 1234567890 Auflagen Auflagen {\txx right hyphenation, but wrong
> ligature\break - -}
>
> 1234567890 Auf\-lagen Auf\-lagen
>
> 1234567890 Auf\/lagen Auf\/lagen {\txx these -- and also \verbatim
> {Auf|\-|lagen} -- kill the other hyphenation Aufla-gen. Esp ugly for
> long words ... \break - -}
>
> 1234567890 Auf|*|lagen Auf|*|lagen {\txx right hyphenation, but too
> much space in fl\break - -}
>
>
> % for the right space between fl see also ff:
>
>
> Auf\-fangen {\txx perfect!}
>
> Auf\/fangen {\txx too much space}
>
> Auf|*|fangen {\txx too much space}
>
>
> \stoptext
>
> \stoptext
Hi Steffen,
you can change the space between the characters the |*| inserts.
% original definition
%\definetextmodediscretionary *
% {\prewordbreak\discretionary{-}{}{\kern.05em}\prewordbreak}
\definetextmodediscretionary *
{\prewordbreak\discretionary{-}{}{}\prewordbreak}
Now Auf|*|lagen give for me the same output as Auf\-lagen.
Wolfgang
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