automatic oldstyle numerals

automatic oldstyle numerals

[Alan Bowen]

I am using the Termes typeface in the TeXGyre distribution and should  
like to have all numerals print automatically as oldstyle numerals.  
Is there an explanation/demonstration anywhere of how to make this  
happen? I have searched the wiki and the archive, but have not yet  
been able to make anything work. Any tips or suggestions will be much  
appreciated.

Alan




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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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2007/6/28, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
> I am using the Termes typeface in the TeXGyre distribution and should
> like to have all numerals print automatically as oldstyle numerals.
> Is there an explanation/demonstration anywhere of how to make this
> happen? I have searched the wiki and the archive, but have not yet
> been able to make anything work. Any tips or suggestions will be much
> appreciated.
>
> Alan

look into the test files and the typescripts

Wolfgang

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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Alan Bowen]

Wolfgang—

Thank you very much for the files: they do have what I need. But  
where do these these files come from? I have not found them on my  
installation of TeXLive/ConTeXt or on the TeX Gyre website.

All best, Alan


On Jul 2, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 2007/6/28, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
>> I am using the Termes typeface in the TeXGyre distribution and should
>> like to have all numerals print automatically as oldstyle numerals.
>> Is there an explanation/demonstration anywhere of how to make this
>> happen? I have searched the wiki and the archive, but have not yet
>> been able to make anything work. Any tips or suggestions will be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Alan
>
> look into the test files and the typescripts
>
> Wolfgang
> <termes.zip>
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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

> Thank you very much for the files: they do have what I need. But  
> where do these these files come from? I have not found them on my  
> installation of TeXLive/ConTeXt or on the TeX Gyre website.

You can easily create your own variants from the otfs that ship with
texlive2007. You can use texfont or (for example) otfinstall
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinstall).

Patrick
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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Alan Bowen]

Thanks, Patrick. I have just downloaded oftinstall and will start to  
experiment with it (and texfont too).

Best Alan

On Jul 3, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hi,
>
>> Thank you very much for the files: they do have what I need. But
>> where do these these files come from? I have not found them on my
>> installation of TeXLive/ConTeXt or on the TeX Gyre website.
>
> You can easily create your own variants from the otfs that ship with
> texlive2007. You can use texfont or (for example) otfinstall
> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinstall).
>
> Patrick
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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Alan Bowen]

Wolfgang—

When I run your termes-test-2.tex, with the lines

\starttext

0123456789

\rm Text---fix this scientifically

\rm Text---fix this scientifically

\rm Text---fix this scientifically

\rm Text---fix this scientifically

\stoptext

I get the oldstyle numerals (which is great), but the “fi”s in “fix”  
and “scientifically” are not printed but left blank.

Alan


On Jul 2, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 2007/6/28, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
>> I am using the Termes typeface in the TeXGyre distribution and should
>> like to have all numerals print automatically as oldstyle numerals.
>> Is there an explanation/demonstration anywhere of how to make this
>> happen? I have searched the wiki and the archive, but have not yet
>> been able to make anything work. Any tips or suggestions will be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Alan
>
> look into the test files and the typescripts
>
> Wolfgang
> <termes.zip>
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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

2007/7/3, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
> Wolfgang—
>
> Thank you very much for the files: they do have what I need. But
> where do these these files come from? I have not found them on my
> installation of TeXLive/ConTeXt or on the TeX Gyre website.
>
> All best, Alan

Hi Allan,

I created the tfm files from the opentype fonts with otftotfm.

Wolfgang
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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

2007/7/3, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
> Wolfgang—
>
> When I run your termes-test-2.tex, with the lines
>
> \starttext
>
> 0123456789
>
> \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>
> \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>
> \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>
> \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>
> \stoptext
>
> I get the oldstyle numerals (which is great), but the "fi"s in "fix"
> and "scientifically" are not printed but left blank.
>
> Alan

I will take a look into the files, it is a problem with the ligatures.

Wolfgang
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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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2007/7/3, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
> 2007/7/3, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
> > Wolfgang—
> >
> > When I run your termes-test-2.tex, with the lines
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > 0123456789
> >
> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
> >
> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
> >
> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
> >
> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> > I get the oldstyle numerals (which is great), but the "fi"s in "fix"
> > and "scientifically" are not printed but left blank.
> >
> > Alan
>
> I will take a look into the files, it is a problem with the ligatures.
>
> Wolfgang

Hi Alan,

you can now choose one of three options:

- you can use the attached map-file and use the opentype version
  from the termes fonts

- I can send you the type1 fonts, I got from otftotfm with the map file

- you can create your tfm files from the type1 fonts included in the
  termes package

Wolfgang

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TeXGyreTermes-Regular--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga--Fonum    TeXGyreTermes-Regular     < termes-os-texnansi.enc << TeXGyreTermes-Regular.otf
TeXGyreTermes-Bold--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga--Fonum       TeXGyreTermes-Bold        < termes-os-texnansi.enc << TeXGyreTermes-Bold.otf
TeXGyreTermes-Italic--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga--Fonum     TeXGyreTermes-Italic      < termes-os-texnansi.enc << TeXGyreTermes-Italic.otf
TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga--Fonum TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic  < termes-os-texnansi.enc << TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic.otf

TeXGyreTermes-Regular--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga           TeXGyreTermes-Regular     < termes-texnansi.enc   << TeXGyreTermes-Regular.otf
TeXGyreTermes-Bold--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga              TeXGyreTermes-Bold        < termes-texnansi.enc   << TeXGyreTermes-Bold.otf
TeXGyreTermes-Italic--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga            TeXGyreTermes-Italic      < termes-texnansi.enc   << TeXGyreTermes-Italic.otf
TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic--texnansi--Fkern--Fliga        TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic  < termes-texnansi.enc   << TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic.otf

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Re: automatic oldstyle numerals

[Alan Bowen]

Hi, Wolfgang—

First, many thanks for resolving the ligature problem. The test-files  
(and my current project) are looking as they should.

Let me try generating the type1 files and so forth on my own using  
otftotfm. I have not used otftotfm before and probably should learn  
about it.

Very best, Alan

On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:15 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 2007/7/3, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>> 2007/7/3, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>:
>> > Wolfgang—
>> >
>> > When I run your termes-test-2.tex, with the lines
>> >
>> > \starttext
>> >
>> > 0123456789
>> >
>> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>> >
>> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>> >
>> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>> >
>> > \rm Text---fix this scientifically
>> >
>> > \stoptext
>> >
>> > I get the oldstyle numerals (which is great), but the "fi"s in  
>> "fix"
>> > and "scientifically" are not printed but left blank.
>> >
>> > Alan
>>
>> I will take a look into the files, it is a problem with the  
>> ligatures.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> you can now choose one of three options:
>
> - you can use the attached map-file and use the opentype version
>  from the termes fonts
>
> - I can send you the type1 fonts, I got from otftotfm with the map  
> file
>
> - you can create your tfm files from the type1 fonts included in the
>  termes package
>
> Wolfgang
> <texnansi-termes.map>
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