Re: Two bibliography problems

Re: Two bibliography problems

[Michael Green]

Taco Hoekwater wrote
> Michael Green wrote:
>
>>
>> The first problem, with the two periods after a book title, has been
>> with me since at least last year. I can reproduce it with the  
>> following:
>>
>> [A] ConTeXt version.
>>
>> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.05 18:47 MKIV  fmt: 2008.8.6  int: english/ 
>> english
>>
>
> Ah. This is using an experimental version of the bib module. I  
> uploaded
> a new version of the module for testing two months ago, after reports
> that the original bibl-apa was not quite following the apa guidelines.
> There has been a lack of feedback up until now, so be careful,
> there may well be more problems.
>
> Meanwhile, you could try the attached bibl-apa.tex instead.


That solves my problem. Thanks!

mjg
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Re: Two bibliography problems

[Michael Green]

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Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Michael Green wrote:
>> [snip]
>> (1) I get two periods after a book title when using
>> \setuppublications[alternative=apa].
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> This happens with all books. On looking at the source, I'm afraid I
>> can't track down where it's coming from or how to fix it.
>>
>> (2) Is it possible to use smart quotes in citations? For instance,  
>> for
>> this book, authored by O'Donovan, I can enter the appropriately curly
>> character between O and D in my bibtex file. But it comes out  
>> straight
>> in the final document.
>
> Can you tell what version of context you are using and post a short
> but complete example of your input? Neither problem sounds familiar,
> so I have to look at your actual code to see that is going on.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>


I can't reproduce the second problem, with the straight/smart quotes.  
Let's ignore it.

The first problem, with the two periods after a book title, has been  
with me since at least last year. I can reproduce it with the following:

[A] ConTeXt version.

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.05 18:47 MKIV  fmt: 2008.8.6  int: english/english

This is based TeXLive 2007, originally installed with the MacTeX  
installer and updated with cont-tmf,zip from pragma and the ppc- 
darwin binaries from http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/osx-ppc/ 
texmf-osx-ppc/bin/.

My understanding of TeX installations is not sophisticated. Perhaps I  
goofed. But everything seems to work.

[B] File

\usemodule[bib]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,refcommand=authoryear]

\setuppublicationlist[samplesize={Kav86},totalnumber=1]

\startpublication[k=Kavka:1986qe,t=book,
a={{Kavka}},y=1986,
n=2,s=Kav86]
\author[]{Gregory}[G.]{}{Kavka}
\pubyear{1986}
\title{Hobbesian Moral and Political Theory}
\city{Princeton}
\pubname{Princeton University Press}
\stoppublication

\starttext

Here is a reference to the Kavka book: \cite[Kavka:1986qe]

\placepublications

\stoptext

The output I get is:

Here is a reference to the Kavka book: Kavka (1986)
Kavka, G. (1986). Hobbesian Moral and Political Theory.. Princeton:  
Princeton
University Press.

Thanks for your help.

Michael

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Re: Two bibliography problems

[Taco Hoekwater]

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Michael Green wrote:
> 
> The first problem, with the two periods after a book title, has been 
> with me since at least last year. I can reproduce it with the following:
> 
> [A] ConTeXt version.
> 
> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.05 18:47 MKIV  fmt: 2008.8.6  int: english/english

Ah. This is using an experimental version of the bib module. I uploaded
a new version of the module for testing two months ago, after reports
that the original bibl-apa was not quite following the apa guidelines.
There has been a lack of feedback up until now, so be careful,
there may well be more problems.

Meanwhile, you could try the attached bibl-apa.tex instead.

Best wishes,
Taco

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%D \module
%D   [       file=bibl-apa,
%D        version=2008.06.09,
%D          title=APA bibliography style,
%D       subtitle=Publications,
%D         author={Taco Hoekwater},
%D           date=\currentdate,
%D      copyright={Public Domain}]
%C
%C Donated to the public domain. Use at your own risk

\unprotect

\setupcite
       [author,year]
       [\c!andtext={ and },
        \c!otherstext={ et al.},
        \c!pubsep={, },
        \c!lastpubsep={ and },
        \c!compress=\v!no,
        \c!inbetween={ },
        \c!left={(},
        \c!right={)}]

\setupcite
       [authoryear]
       [\c!andtext={ and },
        \c!otherstext={ et al.},
        \c!pubsep={, },
        \c!lastpubsep={ and },
        \c!compress=\v!yes,
        \c!inbetween={ },
        \c!left={(},
        \c!right={)}]

\setupcite
       [authoryears]
       [\c!andtext={ and },
        \c!otherstext={ et al.},
        \c!pubsep={, },
        \c!lastpubsep={ and },
        \c!compress=\v!yes,
        \c!inbetween={, },
        \c!left={(},
        \c!right={)}]

\setupcite
       [key,serial,authornum,page,short,type,doi,url]
       [\c!andtext={ and },
        \c!otherstext={ et al.},
        \c!pubsep={, },
        \c!lastpubsep={ and },
        \c!compress=\v!no,
        \c!inbetween={ },
        \c!left={[},
        \c!right={]}]

\setupcite
       [num]
       [\c!andtext={ and },
        \c!otherstext={ et al.},
        \c!pubsep={, },
        \c!lastpubsep={ and },
        \c!compress=\v!yes,
        \c!inbetween={--},
        \c!left={[},
        \c!right={]}]


\setuppublications[%
    \c!sorttype=,
    \c!criterium=,
    \c!refcommand=authoryears,
    \c!numbering=\v!no,
    \c!autohang=\v!no]

\setuppublicationlist
   [\c!width=24pt,
    \c!artauthor=\invertedshortauthor,
    \c!editor=\invertedshortauthor,
    \c!author=\invertedshortauthor,
    \c!namesep={, },
    \c!lastnamesep={ and },
    \c!finalnamesep={ and },
    \c!firstnamesep={, },
    \c!juniorsep={ },
    \c!vonsep={ },
    \c!surnamesep={, },
    \c!authoretallimit=5,
    \c!editoretallimit=5,
    \c!artauthoretallimit=5,
    \c!authoretaldisplay=5,
    \c!editoretaldisplay=5,
    \c!artauthoretaldisplay=5,
    \c!authoretaltext={ et al.},
    \c!editoretaltext={ et al.},
    \c!artauthoretaltext={ et al.},
]

\def\maybeyear#1{#1}

\def\etalchar#1{#1}

%D \macros{insertchapter,insertpublisher}

%D Some shortcuts.

% ((#1(type\ |)chapter#2)|#3)
 
\def\insertchap#1#2#3%
  {\insertchapter
    {#1\insertbibtype{}{\ }{chapter\ }}{#2}%
    {#3}}

% #1city, country: pubname#2
% #1country: pubname#2
% #1pubname#2
% #1city, country#2
% #3

\def\insertpublisher#1#2#3%
   {\insertpubname
       {\insertcity
            {#1}
            {\insertcountry{, }{}{}: }%
            {#1\insertcountry{}{: }{}}}%
       {#2}%
       {\insertcity
            {#1}
            {\insertcountry{, }{}{#2}}%
            {\insertcountry{#1}{#2}{#3}}}%
    }

\def\insertorg#1#2#3%
   {\insertorganization
       {\insertcity
            {#1}
            {\insertcountry{, }{}{#2}: }%
            {\insertcountry{}{: }{#2}}}%
       {}%
       {\insertcity
            {#1}
            {\insertcountry{, }{}{#2}}%
            {\insertcountry{}{#2}{#3}}}%
    }



\setuppublicationlayout[article]{%
   \insertartauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{ }{}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{\unskip.}%
   \insertarttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup. }{}%
   \insertjournal{\bgroup \it}{\egroup}
    {\insertcrossref{In }{}{}}%
   \insertvolume
    {\bgroup \it, }
    {\insertissue{\egroup\/(}{)}{}\insertpages{, }{.}{.}}
    {\insertpages{, pp. }{.}{.}}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
   \insertcomment{}{.}{}%
}

\newif\ifeditedbook
\setuppublicationlayout[book]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{\inserteditors{}{, editor%
                         \ifnum\getvalue{editor@num}> 1 s\fi
                             \ \global\editedbooktrue 
                     }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{\unskip.}%
   \inserttitle
        {\bgroup\it }%
        {\/\egroup 
         \ifeditedbook
           \global\editedbookfalse
           \insertvolume
                { Number~}%
                {\insertseries
                    { in~\bgroup}%
                    {\egroup. }%
                    {\insertcrossref{ in~}{}{. }}}%
                {\insertseries{ }{.}{.}}%
        \else
       \insertcrossref
        {\insertchap{, }{}{}%
         \insertpages{, pages }{. }{. }%
         \insertvolume{Volume~}{ of~}{}%
         }%
        {}%
        {\insertvolume
                   {, volume~}%
                   {\insertseries
                      { of~\bgroup\it}%
                      {\egroup}
                      {}}
                   {}%
                   \insertchap{, }{}{}%
                   \insertpages{, pages }{.}{.}%
                }%
        \fi}%
        {}%
   \insertedition{ }{ edition}{}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{ }{p. }{ }%
   \insertnote{}{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[inbook]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{\inserteditors{}{, editor%
                         \ifnum\getvalue{editor@num}> 1 s\fi
                             \ \global\editedbooktrue 
                     }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{\unskip.}%
   \inserttitle
     {\bgroup\it }%
     {\/\egroup
      \ifeditedbook
         \global\editedbookfalse
         \insertvolume
           { number~}%
           {\insertseries
              { in~\bgroup}%
              {\egroup. }%
              {\insertcrossref{ in~}{}{.}}}%
           {\insertseries{ }{.}{}}%
      \else
        \insertcrossref
          {\insertchap{, }{}{}%
           \insertpages{, pages }{. }{. }%
           \insertvolume{Volume~}{ of~}{}%
           }%
          {}%
          {\insertvolume
              {, volume~}%
              {\insertseries
                 { of~\bgroup\it}%
                 {\egroup}
                 {}}
              {}%
           \insertchap{, }{}{}%
           \insertpages{, pages }{.}{}%
           }%
        \fi}%
     { }%
   \insertedition{ }{ edition.}{}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[booklet]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}{}. }{}%
   \insertedition{ }{ edition.}{}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{}{p. }{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[manual]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup \it }{\/\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}{}. }{}%
   \insertedition{ }{ edition.}{}%
   \insertorg{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{}{p. }{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[incollection]{%
   \insertartauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \insertarttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup. }{}%
   \inserttitle
    {In \inserteditors{}%
        {, editor\ifnum\getvalue{editor@num}> 1 s\fi, }%
        {}%
    \bgroup\it}%
    {\egroup 
         \insertseries
              {\insertvolume{, number }{~in }{ }}%
              {}%
              {}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpages{\unskip, pages~}{. }{\unskip. }% 
          \insertedition{ }{ edition}{}%
          \insertpublisher{. }{.}{.}%
        }%
        {In \insertcrossref{}{}{}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpages{\unskip, pages~}{. }{\unskip. }% 
        }%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[inproceedings]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \insertarttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup. }{}%%
   \inserttitle
    {In \inserteditors{}%
        {, editor\ifnum\getvalue{editor@num}> 1 s\fi, }%
        {}%
    \bgroup\it}%
    {\egroup 
         \insertseries
              {\insertvolume{, number }{~in }{ }}%
              {}%
              {}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpages{, pages~}{}{}%
         \insertorg{. }{.}{.}%
        }%
        {In \insertcrossref{}{}{}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpages{\unskip, pages~}{. }{\unskip. }% 
        }%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[proceedings]{%
   \inserteditors{}{, editor%
                         \ifnum\getvalue{editor@num}> 1 s\fi
                             \ \global\editedbooktrue 
                     }{\insertthekey{}{ }{}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle
    {\bgroup\it}%
    {\egroup 
     \insertseries
        {\insertvolume{, number }{~in }{ }}%
        {}%
        {}%
     \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
     \insertpages{, pages~}{}{}%
     \insertorg{. }{.}{.}%
    }%
    {}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[mastersthesis]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}{}. }{}%
   \insertbibtype{}{, }{Master's thesis, }%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{ }{p. }{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[phdthesis]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup\it }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}{}. }{}%
   \insertbibtype{}{, }{PhD thesis,}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{ }{ p. }{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[misc]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}. }{}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{ }{p. }{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[techreport]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}{}. }{}%
   \insertbibtype{}{\insertvolume{ }{, }{, }}{Technical Report}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{ }{p. }{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\setuppublicationlayout[unpublished]{%
   \insertauthors{}{ }{}%
   \insertpubyear{(}{). }{}%
   \inserttitle{\bgroup }{\egroup \insertseries{ (}{)}{}. }{}%
   \insertpublisher{ }{.}{.}%
   \insertpages{ }{p. }{}%
   \insertbibtype{(}{)}{}%
   \insertnote{ }{.}{}%
}

\protect

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Two bibliography problems

[Michael Green]

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This sort of bibliography entry gives me two kinds of trouble.

@book{ODonovan:1999uv,
	Address = {Grand Rapids, Michigan},
	Author = {O'Donovan, Joan Lockwood and O'Donovan, Oliver},
	Publisher = {William B. Eerdmans},
	Title = {From Irenaeus to Grotius: a sourcebook in Christian  
political thought, 100-1625},
	Year = {1999}}

(1) I get two periods after a book title when using \setuppublications 
[alternative=apa]. For this particular entry, here is what I get.

O'Donovan, J. L. and O'Donovan, O. (1999). From Irenaeus to Grotius:  
a sourcebook in Christian political thought, 100-1625.. Grand Rapids,  
Michigan: William B. Eerdmans.

This happens with all books. On looking at the source, I'm afraid I  
can't track down where it's coming from or how to fix it.

(2) Is it possible to use smart quotes in citations? For instance,  
for this book, authored by O'Donovan, I can enter the appropriately  
curly character between O and D in my bibtex file. But it comes out  
straight in the final document.

Thanks!

Michael

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Re: Two bibliography problems

[Taco Hoekwater]

Michael Green wrote:
> This sort of bibliography entry gives me two kinds of trouble.
> 
> @book{ODonovan:1999uv,
>     Address = {Grand Rapids, Michigan},
>     Author = {O'Donovan, Joan Lockwood and O'Donovan, Oliver},
>     Publisher = {William B. Eerdmans},
>     Title = {From Irenaeus to Grotius: a sourcebook in Christian 
> political thought, 100-1625},
>     Year = {1999}}
> 
> (1) I get two periods after a book title when using 
> \setuppublications[alternative=apa]. For this particular entry, here is 
> what I get.
> 
> O'Donovan, J. L. and O'Donovan, O. (1999). From Irenaeus to Grotius: a 
> sourcebook in Christian political thought, 100-1625.. Grand Rapids, 
> Michigan: William B. Eerdmans.
> 
> This happens with all books. On looking at the source, I'm afraid I 
> can't track down where it's coming from or how to fix it.
> 
> (2) Is it possible to use smart quotes in citations? For instance, for 
> this book, authored by O'Donovan, I can enter the appropriately curly 
> character between O and D in my bibtex file. But it comes out straight 
> in the final document.

Can you tell what version of context you are using and post a short
but complete example of your input? Neither problem sounds familiar,
so I have to look at your actual code to see that is going on.

Best wishes,
Taco

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