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From: Julian Becker <becker.julian@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: undefined control sequence bug with German umlaut in bibliography
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:32:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=EtDP659hOQ=iUXT-7CEs6ufNv+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110604100730.GL20248@rae.vm.bytemark.co.uk>


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I think I'll go for the piping option then, which seems to be the easiest
way out.

Thanks for the insights, I didn't actually know much about the interplay of
context and bibtex until this little problem occured to me...

Julian


2011/6/4 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net>

> On Sat 04 Jun 2011, Julian Becker wrote:
>
> > I'm not familiar with the intricacies and details of UTF8 encoding,
> > but is it possible that there is a byte missing from the "ä" which
> > has been cut off during the abbreviation process?
>
> Well, there *is* more than one way to represent ä in UTF-8, but it's
> my understanding that anything beyond ASCII is simply not supported by
> BibTeX. You can get away with it in fields that just get pasted
> verbatim into the output (usually), but the first three letters of the
> first author's name are used to construct the key (which is why
> ‘Schräger’ worked) so there's no way around using the officially
> sanctioned {\"a} form.
>
> > > unfortunately, I'm using Mendeley Desktop for the management of my
> > > bibtex file and I can't seem to be able to influence the way in
> > > which it encodes the special characters.
>
> This is one reason why I still use plain emacs as a bibliography
> manager -- sooner or later you need a hack, and that's harder when the
> raw BibTeX is hidden or generated. In this case you may need to
> put the hack between Mendeley and BibTeX: pipe the file through
> ‘sed -e 's/ä/{\\"a}/g'’ or something similar. And/or ask in the Mendeley
> support forums, since this is a fairly well-known BibTeX ‘feature’
> so perhaps someone else has had to deal with it there.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Pont
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-04 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-03 18:38 Julian Becker
2011-06-03 19:03 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-06-04  0:31   ` Pontus Lurcock
2011-06-04  8:43     ` Julian Becker
2011-06-04  9:23       ` Julian Becker
2011-06-04  9:26         ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-06-07  7:42           ` Ulrike Fischer
2011-06-04 10:07         ` Pontus Lurcock
2011-06-04 10:32           ` Julian Becker [this message]
2011-06-06 10:11           ` Arthur Reutenauer
2011-06-06 10:29             ` Pontus Lurcock
2011-06-06 10:44               ` Arthur Reutenauer

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