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* Re: A simple project.
@ 2004-11-16 23:57 Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-17  7:08 ` Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.) Maurice Diamantini
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From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-16 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)


I am wiling to do so, but i see that Texlive hasn't changed since 2003, and 
this is already the version i have installed 2 months ago.

Is there a fresher version and does anyone knows the date where Texlive 
structure changed.

Many thanks.

Dirar.

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* Now is the time for all...    (Was: A simple project.)
  2004-11-16 23:57 A simple project Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-17  7:08 ` Maurice Diamantini
  2004-11-17  9:19   ` Taco Hoekwater
  2004-11-17 10:53   ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2004-11-17  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Maurice Diamantini

Now is the time for all...
   ... non Context user to be able to use ConTeXt without
   becomming TeX expert



Following the remark from Dirar about finding the last texlive
distrib, I think the Context system deserves the right of
being a full independant distribution which can be used independently
from the other standard xTeX distributions (e.g. TeTeX, Texlive, ..)

The mytex system proposed by context is a first step in that direction,
but it require a setup that strongly perturbate a concurent use of 
LaTeX.

So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for 
context,
Pragma propose à **independant** "context" distribution which :
1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables
2 - anticipate the addition for new architecture
     (eg. "linux" isn't an architecture name, use "powerpc-linux" 
instead)


What do need ConTeXt for itself ?
1 - an pdfetex (or pdfXXXtex)
2 - some fontes
3 - perl, ruby, tcl, ...
4 - Metapost
5 - the context "TeX macro files"

As ConTeXt does improve much frequently than any standard LaTeX
distribution, I suggest that it is easier to adapt the ConTeXt system
to tetex from time to time (e.g. one time in a year) and becomme free
to change the ConTeXt arborescence following the feeling from Hans.

So that it will always be possible for a LaTeX user to download
a full independant ConTeXt distribution, just source one of the
provided setup.sh or setup.csh files, and run either the standard
texlive old distribution, or its new dowloaded ConTeXt distribution
without conflict.

The objective is to had a line such
source /xxx/context/setup.sh
in my bashrc without worying if I (or other xTeX user) have to do
either LaTeX or ConTeXt writing.




Le 17 nov. 04, à 00:57, Dirar BOUGATEF a écrit :

> I am wiling to do so, but i see that Texlive hasn't changed since 
> 2003, and this is already the version i have installed 2 months ago.
>
> Is there a fresher version and does anyone knows the date where 
> Texlive structure changed.

I second this question.
I look for the texlive2004 too, but didn't found it.

-- Maurice Diamantini

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* Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.)
  2004-11-17  7:08 ` Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.) Maurice Diamantini
@ 2004-11-17  9:19   ` Taco Hoekwater
  2004-11-18  9:37     ` Maurice Diamantini
  2004-11-17 10:53   ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2004-11-17  9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


Maurice Diamantini wrote:

> So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for context,
> Pragma propose à **independant** "context" distribution which :
> 1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables

This is the main item, because this requirement implies using non-standard 
executables. I agree with you that such a distribution would be a great 
thing to have, but unless some people are actually willing to invest (a 
fairly large amount of time) in it, it is simply not going to happen.

I have started a project last spring, whose goal is to deliver almost 
precisely a "standalone, fast and idiot-proof distribution of ConTeXt", but 
it has been a one person affair so far, and I do not have unlimited time to 
spend on it. Anyway, have a look at

	http://www.metatex.org

Greetings, Taco

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* Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.)
  2004-11-17  7:08 ` Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.) Maurice Diamantini
  2004-11-17  9:19   ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2004-11-17 10:53   ` Hans Hagen
  2004-11-18  9:05     ` Maurice Diamantini
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-17 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Maurice Diamantini

Maurice Diamantini wrote:

> So that it will always be possible for a LaTeX user to download
> a full independant ConTeXt distribution, just source one of the
> provided setup.sh or setup.csh files, and run either the standard
> texlive old distribution, or its new dowloaded ConTeXt distribution
> without conflict.
> 
> The objective is to had a line such
> source /xxx/context/setup.sh
> in my bashrc without worying if I (or other xTeX user) have to do
> either LaTeX or ConTeXt writing.

Actually there has been something like that for a long time -)

- when a new tex live comes out, i remove my old texmf tree and copy the texlive 
one to my disk (ok, for the next one i need to copy both texmf and texmf-dist to 
texmf on my disk)
- this will then include a version of context
- alongside i keep texmf-local and a few more (which has the beta context and such)

if you do

rsync -v www.pragma-pod.com::

you will get all the trees that you can download

because i seperate things in trees, there is no danger in clashes with existing 
stuff; also, the setup scripts set all variables in a defensive way, so that 
there will be no clash with other distributions (that way i can also keep 
several project trees with older context versions available); the reason for 
using architectre paths is that it permits me to have out of sync binaries which 
means different pool files and formats)

Hans



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* Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.)
  2004-11-17 10:53   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2004-11-18  9:05     ` Maurice Diamantini
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2004-11-18  9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Maurice Diamantini


Le 17 nov. 04, à 11:53, Hans Hagen a écrit :

> Maurice Diamantini wrote:
>
>> The objective is to had a line such
>> source /xxx/context/setup.sh
>> in my bashrc without worying if I (or other xTeX user) have to do
>> either LaTeX or ConTeXt writing.
>
> Actually there has been something like that for a long time -)
>
> - when a new tex live comes out, i remove my old texmf tree and copy 
> the texlive one to my disk (ok, for the next one i need to copy both 
> texmf and texmf-dist to texmf on my disk)

A new standard tex dist is always relatively easy to install
(tetex or texlive)...

> - this will then include a version of context

... And there is a (old) version of context include.
But it is that way I'm using context today.
So far so good.
And I can personnalised my LaTeX distribution by using the
HOMETEXMF environment variable.


> - alongside i keep texmf-local and a few more (which has the beta
> context and such)

My problem (as a NOT guru xyzTeX administrator !) is precisely that
I have trouble in using a separate cont-tmf distribution in my own
tex tree (trouble with creating the formats).
i suppose I have to more investigate in this direction.

What I'm looking for, is a mean to use:
- my one cont-tmf uptodate tree, possibly with some "near standard"
   contrib addition (read "soon to be include in the standard Context
   distrib" e.g. t-bib, t-nath ;-)
- some personnal environnement variables (HOMETEXMF, or better:
   CONTEXT_HOME)
togother with any ***full standard LaTeX distribution*** wich I haven't
installed myself on a workstation I don't administre myself (read "in 
hostile
environment" :-). I only master my home directory.

If I have to modify the texlive distribution (or a configuration
file from). Then it is no more a standard texlive distrib.

So the two possibilities I envisage are:

1 - managing a separate context tree package in an hostile environment
     (the prefered solution if robust)

2 - manage a separate full context system.
     It's probable the easier way to go. And for less than 100 Mbytes
     it is no much more heavy than the simple con-tmf plus the format.
     Also, if I can do a multiplatform (powerpc-darwin, x86-linux, ...)
     non intrusive (with concurrent LaTeX distribution),
     I'll can make it installed everywere (around me).

     I have yet to solve some confict in my environnement (because
     for sample the context-live setup **cleer** all environment variable
     which concerne LaTeX, kpath, and other HOMETEXMF variable.

This second item was the main objective of this thread "Now is the 
time..".
I think the work is almost done with the minimal context-live
distribution. It need just some setup adjust.

> if you do
>
>    rsync -v www.pragma-pod.com::
>
> you will get all the trees that you can download

This doen't work at work because of a firewall.
I tried to use the option "-e ssh" which could work
if you had a secure shell demond enabled.
But it doesn't seem to!

The a try this night at home (with free.fr)
   rsync -av  www.pragma-pod.com::all  pragma-context-all
And it worked! (590 Moctets)

So this week-end, I have to retry to solve the setup problems.

> because i seperate things in trees, there is no danger in clashes with 
> existing stuff; also, the setup scripts set all variables in a 
> defensive way,
> so that there will be no clash with other distributions (that way i 
> can also keep several project trees with older context versions 
> available);

It a defensive way for ConTeXt user, not for LaTeX user.

> the reason for using architectre paths is that it permits me to have 
> out of sync binaries which means different pool files and formats)

\startLaughingMode

I agree that multi-architecture is needed, but the problem with
P.C users is that there is only two architecture in the world (;-)
1 - Windows
2 - the others

The most advanced pc users know also about "linux" and even "linux-64"
but an architecture is a combination between some hard  (sparc, powerpc,
x86, 64-x86) and some "operating system" (linux, bsd, sunos, cygwin,
darwin, )
This principle is very flexible, and support even "inoperating system'
(dos, dos++, windose95, windose95.2, macosClone, ...)

\stopLaughingMode

The best way to get an idea on how to deal which multi-architecture
is to look at the config.guess and config.sub from gnu configure
system (which seems used by the texlive distribution).
Context need not support all the architecture combination, but should
support the standard architecture system.

Here are some examples of a binary tree:
  alpha-linux
  i386-linux
  i386-openbsd -> i386-openbsd3.3
  i386-openbsd3.3
  powerpc-aix -> powerpc-aix4.3.3.0
  powerpc-aix4.3.3.0
  powerpc-darwin -> powerpc-darwin6.6
  powerpc-darwin6.6
  sparc-solaris -> sparc-solaris2.7
  sparc-solaris2.7
  sparc64-linux
  win32
  win32-static

I have a script I use for shoosing between a few architecture.
I can be be update for adapting to the supported ConTeXt binaries
arctitecture.

     http://www.ensta.fr/~diam/pub/guessarch/

All my configure scripts use set privaded string
e.g.
     # CONTEXT_HOME can be guessed from this script if not provided
     # by the user.
	CONTEXT_ARCH=`context-guessarch`
     PATH="$CONTEXT_HOME/bin/$CONTEXT_ARCH/:$PATH"

--
Maurice Diamantini

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* Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.)
  2004-11-17  9:19   ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2004-11-18  9:37     ` Maurice Diamantini
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2004-11-18  9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Maurice Diamantini


Le 17 nov. 04, à 10:19, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :

> Maurice Diamantini wrote:
>
>> So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for 
>> context,
>> Pragma propose à **independant** "context" distribution which :
>> 1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables
>
> This is the main item, because this requirement implies using 
> non-standard executables. I agree with you that such a distribution 
> would be a great thing to have, but unless some people are actually 
> willing to invest (a fairly large amount of time) in it, it is simply 
> not going to happen.

Hum, I thought it would be possible to just change the name of the
environment variable used be the kpsea system.
But if these names are hard coded, perhaps it is still possible to patch
the source for all the external tools used by context and relying
on kpathsea.
I suppose that Hans could do a "contextize" perl script which automatise
this transformation from the standard tools archives.


> I have started a project last spring, whose goal is to deliver almost 
> precisely a "standalone, fast and idiot-proof distribution of 
> ConTeXt", but it has been a one person affair so far, and I do not 
> have unlimited time to spend on it. Anyway, have a look at
>
> 	http://www.metatex.org


Woaow!
This is very ambitious ! You are redoing the full tex envirenment!
If you realy want to do that, you should:
- first create a contributing information system (as the wiki context 
:-)
- create an open source project on sourceforge or something like that,
   (this mean mailing lists, cvs access, ...)
- and then call for a partitipation on comp.text.tex group.
I sure there is several TeX guru interested.

This project is much more that what I asked for!

Cordialement,
Maurice

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-19  0:22           ` Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-19  9:27             ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-19  9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
> I was doing exactly what you did with sabon, but i was using 
> \pdfmapfile{+texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map} which does not work now (with 
> mytex) !
> 
> I have changed that to \loadmapfile[texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map] and 
> this works fine.

future versions of context will hide the whole map file system behind runtime 
generated \pdfmapline entries; i wait with that till pdftex > 1.20 is more
widespread and till dvipdfmx has this feature too

hans


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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-18 16:52         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2004-11-19  0:22           ` Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-19  9:27             ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-19  0:22 UTC (permalink / raw)


I was doing exactly what you did with sabon, but i was using 
\pdfmapfile{+texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map} which does not work now (with 
mytex) !

I have changed that to \loadmapfile[texnansi-rubicon-opulent.map] and this 
works fine.

Great, i now have my system setup and running and my project compiles too.

Thanks a lot Hans for your time.

@+.

Dirar.

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-18 16:17       ` Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-18 16:52         ` Hans Hagen
  2004-11-19  0:22           ` Dirar BOUGATEF
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-18 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
> Great. I have installed my fonts another time, i get my tfm + vfs at the 
> right place. Have updated pdftex.cfg in 
> C:\mytex\texmf-local\pdftex\config too with +map filename. Have updated 
> my files databases with mktexlsr. But my font fles are not found.
> 
> 
> This is the error message i get:
> 
> Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-OPN): Font texnansi-raw-OPN at 
> 72 not f
> ound
> <c:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy10.pfb><c:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/b 
> 
> luesky/cm/cmr8.pfb>
> Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 
> 72 not f
> ound
> 
> Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 
> 58 not f
> ound
> 
> Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 
> 130 not
> found
> Output written on BusinessPlan.pdf (44 pages, 47617 bytes).
> Transcript written on BusinessPlan.log.
> 
> Am i missing some else .. ?
> 
> Thanks in advance ..

hm, i'm just now installing sabon, so here is what i did:

mkdir <drive>:\fonts\monotype\sabon
copy the files to there
goto <drive>:\fonts

texfont --en=texnansi --ve=monotype --co=sabon --re
texfont --en=texnansi --ve=monotype --co=sabon --so=monotype/sabon --ma --in

that installs the fonts and generates a file

   texnansi-monotype-sabon.pdf

which you can process;

next make a typescript, say in typeface.tex (which you need to load in your doc 
then with \usetypescriptfile[typeface])

\starttypescript [map] [sabon] [ec,8r,texnansi]
   \loadmapfile[\typescriptthree-monotype-sabon.map]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [sabon] [name]

   \definefontsynonym [Serif]            [SabonMT]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps]        [SabonMT-RegularSC]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]      [SabonMT-Italic]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted]     [SabonMT-Italic]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]        [SabonMT-SemiBold]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic]  [SabonMT-SemiBoldItalic]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [SabonMT-SemiBoldItalic]

\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [sabon] [ec,8r,texnansi]

   \definefontsynonym[SabonMT]               [\typescriptthree-sab] 
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
   \definefontsynonym[SabonMT-RegularSC] 
[\typescriptthree-sabsc][encoding=\typescriptthree]
   \definefontsynonym[SabonMT-Italic]        [\typescriptthree-sabi] 
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
   \definefontsynonym[SabonMT-SemiBold]      [\typescriptthree-sabs] 
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
 
\definefontsynonym[SabonMT-SemiBoldItalic][\typescriptthree-sabsi][encoding=\typescriptthree]

\stoptypescript

After that

\usetypescriptfile[typeface.tex]
\definetypeface[sabon][rm][serif][sabon][default]
\setupbodyfont[sabon] \input tufte \end

I got some text in the right font. This process is described in the wiki and 
bill's site as well

Hans

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-18 13:46     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2004-11-18 16:17       ` Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-18 16:52         ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-18 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)


Great. I have installed my fonts another time, i get my tfm + vfs at the 
right place. Have updated pdftex.cfg in C:\mytex\texmf-local\pdftex\config 
too with +map filename. Have updated my files databases with mktexlsr. But 
my font fles are not found.


This is the error message i get:

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-OPN): Font texnansi-raw-OPN at 72 
not f
ound
<c:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy10.pfb><c:\mytex\texmf/fonts/type1/b
luesky/cm/cmr8.pfb>
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 72 
not f
ound

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 58 
not f
ound

Warning: pdfetex.exe (file texnansi-raw-KAN): Font texnansi-raw-KAN at 130 
not
found
Output written on BusinessPlan.pdf (44 pages, 47617 bytes).
Transcript written on BusinessPlan.log.

Am i missing some else .. ?

Thanks in advance ..

Dirar.

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-18 13:16   ` Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-18 13:46     ` Hans Hagen
  2004-11-18 16:17       ` Dirar BOUGATEF
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-18 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
> Looks like rsync does not like firewalls (could be the opposite ;) )
> 
> Now that i have the right context plateform setup and working, the 
> question is: where is it best to install my fonts as the local tree is 
> the one that handles context updates etc. just in case i have to 
> reinstall every thing from scratch .. :=)

texmf-fonts

Hans


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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-17  8:57 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2004-11-18 13:16   ` Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-18 13:46     ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-18 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)


Looks like rsync does not like firewalls (could be the opposite ;) )

Now that i have the right context plateform setup and working, the question 
is: where is it best to install my fonts as the local tree is the one that 
handles context updates etc. just in case i have to reinstall every thing 
from scratch .. :=)

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-17  1:52 A simple project Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-17  8:57 ` Hans Hagen
  2004-11-18 13:16   ` Dirar BOUGATEF
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-17  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
> I have installed Texlive8 (Not sure wether it is the latest one. I have 
> used TeXSetup.exe).
> 
> Am using rsync as you mentioned, but seems like it does not work, this 
> is what i get:
> 
> C:\>rsync2.5.1-dev -r -v www.pragma-pod.com::mswin mytex
> receiving file list ...

 >rsync -v
rsync  version 2.6.3  protocol version 28


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* Re: A simple project.
@ 2004-11-17  1:52 Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-17  8:57 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-17  1:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


I have installed Texlive8 (Not sure wether it is the latest one. I have used 
TeXSetup.exe).

Am using rsync as you mentioned, but seems like it does not work, this is 
what i get:

C:\>rsync2.5.1-dev -r -v www.pragma-pod.com::mswin mytex
receiving file list ...

Do i need a user account to do this .. ?

Which version of rsync do you use ?

Many thanks.

Dirar.

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-15 17:14 Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-15 17:46 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2004-11-15 19:00 ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-15 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:

> Is all of this because of the new way Texlive works now ?

probably

Hans

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-15 17:14 Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-15 17:46 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2004-11-15 19:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2004-11-15 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


Am 15.11.2004 um 18:14 schrieb Dirar BOUGATEF:
> Is all of this because of the new way Texlive works now ?

Seems so. My TeX runs only since I completely re-installed it with 
Gerben's i-Installer.

Regardings project structure please have a look at the wiki:
http://www.contextgarden.net/Project_structure

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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* Re: A simple project.
@ 2004-11-15 17:14 Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-15 17:46 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2004-11-15 19:00 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-15 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


Thanks for the rsync stuff, i have started looking at it.

I first need to know how things work in their basic way. I don't understand 
why my update didn't work as i did everything the way i was asked.

And now, Pdftex doesn't find my fonts anymore :)

It is turning to a nightmare.

Is all of this because of the new way Texlive works now ?

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-15 15:12 Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-15 16:13 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-15 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> Looks like am never going to get out of my installation problems without 
> getting the write way to do it.
> 
> Back to Bill's mc clain method, i have done the equivalent of this in XP:

an option is (assuming that you have rsync running):

c:
cd \
mkdir mytex
rsync -r -v www.pragma-pod.com::mswin mytex
cd mytex
setuptex
texexec --make --alone --all

and voila you have a running system (like i have)

(updating is then also rather efficient)

c:\mytex\setuptex c:\mytex

can then be udes any time.

rsync www.pragma-pod.com::

gives a list of other trees that can be downloaded.

Hans


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* Re: A simple project.
@ 2004-11-15 15:12 Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-15 16:13 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-15 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi Hans,

Looks like am never going to get out of my installation problems without 
getting the write way to do it.

Back to Bill's mc clain method, i have done the equivalent of this in XP:



mv cont-tmf.zip /usr/TeX/texmf
cd /usr/TeX/texmf
rm tex/context/base/*        # safer to clean out old files first
rm metapost/context/base/*   # ...also remove metafun files
rm metapost/context/*.mp     # ...and any from an obsolete version
unzip -a -L -o cont-tmf.zip  # overwrites existing files

# Edit texexec.ini afterwards?
cp context/config/texexec.rme context/config/texexec.ini

# Edit cont-sys.tex afterwards? Specifically: uncomment the line:
#
#   \autoloadmapfilestrue
#
# For Metapost use, make sure these lines are uncommented:
#
#   \runMPgraphicstrue
#   \runMPTEXgraphicstrue
#   \useMETAFUNformattrue
cp tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex

#
# Edit /usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf and ensure that "shell_escape = t". 
This
# is what TeX people somewhat obscurely call "write18 enabled".
#

export PATH=$PATH:/usr/TeX/bin/i386-linux # root doesn't have this on my 
system

texhash
texexec --make en  # en = english
texexec --make --alone metafun
mv metafun.mem /usr/TeX/texmf-var/web2c/metafun.mem
texhash

exit # from "su root"



Now, nothing changed within my context version, still ConTeXt  ver: 
2003.9.25  fmt: 2004.8.17  int: english  mes: english.

When i use a straight file (e.g AllInOneFile.tex) without the project 
structure another version of Context is used: ConTeXt  ver: 2004.11.06  fmt: 
2004.11.15  int: english  mes: english

Things stay the same wether i use the --pdf option or not.

Many thanks :)

Dirar.

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* Re: A simple project.
  2004-11-15 10:51 Dirar BOUGATEF
@ 2004-11-15 11:51 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-11-15 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dirar BOUGATEF wrote:

> This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2)
> %&-line parsing enabled.
> (c:/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
> entering extended mode
> (./documents.tex{c:/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
> 
> ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.25  fmt: 2004.8.17  int: english  mes: english
                 ^^^^^^^^^

looks like an old context mixed with a new one

Hans

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* A simple project.
@ 2004-11-15 10:51 Dirar BOUGATEF
  2004-11-15 11:51 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Dirar BOUGATEF @ 2004-11-15 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi all,

I have tried the document project on the cont-enp.pdf and am getting this 
error:

>texexec --pdf documents

            executable : pdfetex
                format : cont-en
             inputfile : documents
                output : pdftex
             interface : en
          current mode : none
               TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2c 7.5.2)
%&-line parsing enabled.
(c:/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./documents.tex{c:/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.25  fmt: 2004.8.17  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system         : cont-new loaded
(c:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
! Undefined control sequence.
\@@toks ->\everymathematics

\dodoappendtoks ->\dodoglobal \@@toks
                                      \@EAEAEA {\@EA \the \@EA \@@toks \the 
...
l.275 \to \everymathematics


Here are my files:



documents.tex:

\startproject documents
\product teacher
\stopproject



teacher.tex:

\startproduct teacher
\project documents
\component student
\stopproduct



student.tex:

\startcomponent student
\project documents
\product teacher
\chapter{First chapter}
\stopcomponent


What is wrong ?

Thanks in advance.

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