From: Gerben Wierda <Gerben.Wierda@rna.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: cont-enp.pdf on lulu
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:38:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BB92EB7E-243A-4575-A9D8-84EA6EA39B12@rna.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0807251902360.26778@nqv-yncgbc>
On Jul 26, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> The sources are very well documented in the most
> part. But then, that is not user interface documentation, it is code
> documentation
Exactly. Let's give a simple example. My project needs both footnotes
and endnotes. For footnotes I have
\setupfootnotes[conversion=set 2,way=bypage]
in my environment file. For endnotes, I use \endnote and
\placenotes[endnote]
in a separate chapter in \backmatter. When I asked Hans in 2005 if
footnotes and endnotes together were possible he finished a part of
ConTeXt that was not quite done and after some testing it ended up in
ConTeXt. This is how it works.
What I would like now is to get my end notes per chapter at the end of
the chapter (because I want to work on my project per chapter and make
per-chapter pdf-files I can send to people). I have been looking for
documentation on endnotes. The term still does not appear in any
official ConTeXt manual, not on the ConTeXt wiki. So, \endnote and
\placenotes[endnote] have been there for *years*. But there is *no*
mention of it anywhere. For fun: try googling for "endnote placenote".
So, let's look at the well documented code then
\def\dodoflushnotes % per class, todo: handle endnotes here
{\ifdim\ht\localpostponednotes>\zeropoint
\bgroup
\dochecknote
\ifendnotes \else
;-) Seriously, do you really expect ordinary users to look at the code
of ConTeXt to find out how things can be done? I think nobody thinks
that.
Also funny: Look at what the wiki tells me about \setupfootnotes: http://texshow.contextgarden.net/cmd/setupfootnotes
. How should a simple user like myself ever find out that the above is
possible reading the table in the wiki? And who else than ConTeXt
developers can write this? Or is it the idea that many people reverse
engineer what ConTeXt does and fill a Wiki that way?
So, what we have is Hans' and Taco's (and maybe some others) swiss
army knife under development. WIth LuaTeX and MKIV all efforts go into
the development of the entirely new engine and all the technical know
how on the inside. My expectation is that the situation with respect
to user documentation is not going to improve soon.
G
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-26 2:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-21 23:58 abbg770
2008-07-22 0:37 ` John Culleton
2008-07-25 20:07 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-25 22:42 ` luigi scarso
2008-07-25 23:31 ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-07-26 2:38 ` Gerben Wierda [this message]
2008-07-27 19:40 ` David
2008-07-28 9:50 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-28 10:46 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-07-28 12:48 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-28 12:57 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-07-28 14:11 ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-07-28 23:07 ` Uwe Koloska
2008-07-28 14:20 ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-28 15:44 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-28 20:36 ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-29 9:02 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-29 12:44 ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-07-29 20:01 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-29 18:05 ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-29 19:54 ` Gerben Wierda
2008-07-30 16:21 ` Fabrice Popineau
2008-07-31 16:17 ` Hans Hagen
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