From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/13770 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nigel King Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: texfont and type-tmf.dat Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:14:30 +0100 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <5.2.0.9.1.20030811144332.022c1f50@server-1> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065633666 21902 80.91.224.253 (8 Oct 2003 17:21:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gerben Wierda Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Wed Oct 08 19:21:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A7Hzk-0007c7-00 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:21:04 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCF410B47; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:20:53 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B1B10B07 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:13:20 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from [1.1.3.76] (pipinghot.gw.dircon.net [195.157.154.158]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED895966A; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:13:15 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Original-To: , Hans Hagen In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.1.20030811144332.022c1f50@server-1> Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:13770 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:13770 Dear Gerben or Hans, I have been away on holiday. So I have lost the result of this thread. Have you or Hans solved this problem. If so, do I need to upgrade i-tetex or ConTeXt or both. I would really like to solve this problem and get back to standard ConTeXt fonts. TIA > From: Hans Hagen > At 00:05 07/08/2003 +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: > >> Yes, this could be. If texexec or any ConTeXt tool does not use texmf.cnf >> values but has hardcoded ideas about where to find stuff (texmf), then the >> rearranging of the texmf directories could have an influence. Hans can >> probably say if this is possibly the case. After all, the rearranging had >> no ill effects whatsoever on TeX or LaTeX, because where files are is >> governed by texmf.cnf and that was adapted as well to reflect the changed >> situation. If there is hardcoded stuff in texexec that is playing a role >> (I am guessing here), making it dynamic by calls to kpsewhich is a good >> solution. >> >> For the rest, the content of texmf.tetex is created by Thomas Esser, not >> me. And there you will find not a complete set of URW but an Adobe set and >> thatis what the discussion is also about. hans is right in stating that. > > context can happily work in the texmf tree and does depemnd on its own > trees; with regards to texfont: > > - it will install in either texmf-fonts or texmf-local, depending on what > is present; the reason for having texmf-fonts is that we need a place for > commercial fonts (and texmf-local is for my updates, local stuff etc) > > - texfonts uses prefixed names (texnansi-* and alike) for several reasons: > (1) when i buy a font, i wan tto copy the fonts to some temp path, call > texfont, and have the job done; i don't want to mess around with 8 char > names that may conflict is i do something wrong; > > - another reason for texfonts naming sheme of 'third party fonts' is that > when one starts slanting fonts (and alike) the kb naming sheme does not > keep track of what slant is used, which in principle will lead to conflicts > if one has multiple instances (wherever they may come from) > > - for the same reason i keep separate map files for those third part > collections > > - with regards to the fonts on tex live the confusion comes from the mix of > adobe names and urw type ones. So far whatever i made default, failed on > someones system, which is why we have now type-akb for the mixed users > > - also: context font mechanism is set up in a way that makes it possible to > combine fonts with minimal calls (once understood -), supporting relative > scaling and alike; i don't want user sto be dependent on one (few) persons > to define / install / use fonts. > >> If that is the case, texfont is a problem because it hard codes locations >> where texmf.cnf is the source for locations and kpsewhich is the way to >> find out about them. > > afaik it uses kpsewhich an-r env vars and one can set things on the command > line as well; there is not so much hard coded in there -) > > Hans -- Nigel