* backgrounds: help needed
@ 2008-11-04 11:16 Peter Münster
2009-01-20 22:51 ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-01-25 18:23 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Peter Münster @ 2008-11-04 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
I need some text with background, that can break across lines. But the
background must not touch the background of the next line!
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
inframed does not allow linebreaks:
\def\Bla{\inframed[background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off,
offset=overlay, backgroundoffset=2pt, location=keep]{%
FF FF XX XX XX XX XX XX SS CS CS}}
\dorecurse{20}{bla \Bla\ bla}
And textbackground does not allow to seperate the backgrounds of 2 lines:
\definetextbackground[TG][backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off,
offset=overlay, backgroundoffset=2pt]
\def\Bla{\starttextbackground[TG]FF FF XX XX XX XX XX XX SS CS CS%
\stoptextbackground}
\dorecurse{20}{bla \Bla\ bla}
\stoptext
Could anybody help please?
TIA for any hints!
Cheer, Peter
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2008-11-04 11:16 backgrounds: help needed Peter Münster
@ 2009-01-20 22:51 ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-01-20 23:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-25 18:23 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2009-01-20 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context; +Cc: Peter Münster
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I, too, do not understand the
\definetextbackground
\starttextbackground
\stoptextbackground
commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core-pgr.tex).
My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating examples, set off from the main text.
I first used
\defineframedtext [example]
[width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]
\startexample
...
\stopexample
and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one page.
However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one page
runs off the bottom.
Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried
\definetextbackground [example]
[location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
\definestartstop [example]
[before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]
but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding state=start, ...) with no success.
Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further documentation or examples of use?
Thanks.
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-20 22:51 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2009-01-20 23:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-25 12:14 ` Something usefull? Alan BRASLAU
2009-01-27 8:50 ` backgrounds: help needed Thomas Floeren
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-01-20 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 20.01.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> I, too, do not understand the
> \definetextbackground
> \starttextbackground
> \stoptextbackground
> commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core-
> pgr.tex).
> My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating
> examples, set off from the main text.
> I first used
> \defineframedtext [example]
> [width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]
> \startexample
> ...
> \stopexample
> and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one
> page.
> However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one
> page
> runs off the bottom.
> Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried
> \definetextbackground [example]
> [location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
> \definestartstop [example]
> [before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]
> but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding
> state=start, ...) with no success.
> Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further
> documentation or examples of use?
This works for me.
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definetextbackground
[example]
[location=paragraph,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=middlegray,
frame=off]
\starttext
\input knuth
\startexample
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\stopexample
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Something usefull?
2009-01-20 23:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-01-25 12:14 ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-01-25 18:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-27 8:50 ` backgrounds: help needed Thomas Floeren
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2009-01-25 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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> Take a look at the attached file.
missing:
\setupcolors[state=start]
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* Re: Something usefull?
2009-01-25 12:14 ` Something usefull? Alan BRASLAU
@ 2009-01-25 18:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-01-25 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 25.01.2009 um 13:14 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> > Take a look at the attached file.
> missing:
> \setupcolors[state=start]
This wasn't in the original file and it's possible Cecil enables
color in his default module.
Wolfgang
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2008-11-04 11:16 backgrounds: help needed Peter Münster
2009-01-20 22:51 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2009-01-25 18:23 ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-01-25 18:59 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2009-01-25 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I am still a bit confused about textbackgrounds.
So I created a wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground
(in order to try to confuse others!)
I have two questions:
1. The live conTeXt of the wiki does not show the background,
whereas the code works using the context minimals.
Why?
2. Setting background=screen as opposed to background=color,backgroundcolor=middlegray
doesn't work (live & minimals). Why?
Can anyone help here? Beyond details.pdf, I have not found many explanations.
Thanks
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-25 18:23 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2009-01-25 18:59 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-01-25 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 25.01.2009 um 19:23 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> I am still a bit confused about textbackgrounds.
> So I created a wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TextBackground
> (in order to try to confuse others!)
> I have two questions:
>
> 2. Setting background=screen as opposed to
> background=color,backgroundcolor=middlegray
> doesn't work (live & minimals). Why?
> Can anyone help here? Beyond details.pdf, I have not found many
> explanations.
Not supported in textbackground, it works only for framed and
framedtext.
Wolfgang
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-20 23:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-25 12:14 ` Something usefull? Alan BRASLAU
@ 2009-01-27 8:50 ` Thomas Floeren
2009-01-27 9:11 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-27 13:56 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-01-27 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Januar 2009 00:08
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
Am 20.01.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> I, too, do not understand the
> \definetextbackground
> \starttextbackground
> \stoptextbackground
> commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core-
> pgr.tex).
> My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating
> examples, set off from the main text.
> I first used
> \defineframedtext [example]
> [width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]
> \startexample
> ...
> \stopexample
> and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one
> page.
> However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one
> page
> runs off the bottom.
> Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried
> \definetextbackground [example]
> [location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
> \definestartstop [example]
> [before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]
> but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding
> state=start, ...) with no success.
> Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further
> documentation or examples of use?
This works for me.
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definetextbackground
[example]
[location=paragraph,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=middlegray,
frame=off]
\starttext
\input knuth
\startexample
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\stopexample
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
Greetings
Thomas
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-27 8:50 ` backgrounds: help needed Thomas Floeren
@ 2009-01-27 9:11 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-27 9:28 ` Thomas Floeren
2009-01-27 13:56 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-01-27 9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: thomas.floeren, mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Floeren
<thomas.floeren@boschung.com> wrote:
> This works for me.
>
> \setupcolors[state=start]
>
> \definetextbackground
> [example]
> [location=paragraph,
> background=color,
> backgroundcolor=middlegray,
> frame=off]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
>
> \startexample
> \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
> \stopexample
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
MkII or MkIV?
Can you try "texexec --make metafun --standalone".
Wolfgang
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
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@ 2009-01-27 9:28 ` Thomas Floeren
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From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-01-27 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Wolfgang Schuster', 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Wolfgang Schuster [mailto:schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 10:12
An: thomas.floeren@boschung.com; mailing list for ConTeXt users
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Floeren
<thomas.floeren@boschung.com> wrote:
> This works for me.
>
> \setupcolors[state=start]
>
> \definetextbackground
> [example]
> [location=paragraph,
> background=color,
> backgroundcolor=middlegray,
> frame=off]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
>
> \startexample
> \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
> \stopexample
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
MkII or MkIV?
Can you try "texexec --make metafun --standalone".
Wolfgang
MkII.
I just reinstalled the october version; everything ok.
btw: It seems that it still worked fine with a context-beta from 2008-12-01.
Thomas
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-27 8:50 ` backgrounds: help needed Thomas Floeren
2009-01-27 9:11 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-01-27 13:56 ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-01-27 14:08 ` Thomas Floeren
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2009-01-27 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
>
> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
Do you mean 2009-01-18?
Aditya
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-27 13:56 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2009-01-27 14:08 ` Thomas Floeren
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From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-01-27 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Aditya Mahajan', 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'
yes, 2009 of course;
thanks.
Thomas
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Von: Aditya Mahajan [mailto:adityam@umich.edu]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 14:57
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
>
> For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
>
> It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
Do you mean 2009-01-18?
Aditya
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-27 14:08 ` Thomas Floeren
@ 2009-01-27 16:04 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2009-01-27 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 15:08:29 Thomas Floeren wrote:
> yes, 2009 of course;
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
> >
> > For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
> >
> > It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
>
> Do you mean 2009-01-18?
>
> Aditya
The example works correctly with
ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.1.25 int: english/english
as well as with MKII
Alan
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-27 16:04 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2009-01-28 7:13 ` Thomas Floeren
2009-01-29 10:39 ` Thomas Floeren
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From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-01-28 7:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Alan BRASLAU', ntg-context
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Alan BRASLAU [mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 17:04
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: thomas.floeren@boschung.com; 'Aditya Mahajan'
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 15:08:29 Thomas Floeren wrote:
> yes, 2009 of course;
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
> >
> > For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
> >
> > It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
>
> Do you mean 2009-01-18?
>
> Aditya
The example works correctly with
ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.1.25 int: english/english
as well as with MKII
Alan
Thanks for your answer.
I installed the 2009-01-18 yesterday at home on my mac. Everything works
fine!
Now I re-reinstalled the 2009-01-18 on the windows machine at work, and I
get the same result as before: no gray background.
I even did the "texexec --make metafun --standalone" from Wolfgang, but
still no background.
I noticed that on the win system the <filename>-mpgraph.4000 etc. and
-mpgraph.keep files don't appear at all; they do appear of course with
2008-10-31. Appearently these are holding the code for the background.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Thomas
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* Re: backgrounds: help needed
2009-01-28 7:13 ` Thomas Floeren
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From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-01-29 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users', 'Alan BRASLAU'
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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Auftrag von Thomas Floeren
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2009 08:14
An: 'Alan BRASLAU'; ntg-context@ntg.nl
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Alan BRASLAU [mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 17:04
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: thomas.floeren@boschung.com; 'Aditya Mahajan'
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 15:08:29 Thomas Floeren wrote:
> yes, 2009 of course;
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Thomas Floeren wrote:
> >
> > For me this works only with context 2008-10-31.
> >
> > It doesn't work with the beta from 2008-01-18 (no background).
>
> Do you mean 2009-01-18?
>
> Aditya
The example works correctly with
ConTeXt ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV fmt: 2009.1.25 int: english/english
as well as with MKII
Alan
Thanks for your answer.
I installed the 2009-01-18 yesterday at home on my mac. Everything works
fine!
Now I re-reinstalled the 2009-01-18 on the windows machine at work, and I
get the same result as before: no gray background.
I even did the "texexec --make metafun --standalone" from Wolfgang, but
still no background.
I noticed that on the win system the <filename>-mpgraph.4000 etc. and
-mpgraph.keep files don't appear at all; they do appear of course with
2008-10-31. Appearently these are holding the code for the background.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Thomas
Finally I've found the problem.
In the cont-sys files from 2009-01-18 the following two lines are enabled:
\runMPgraphicstrue
\runMPTEXgraphicstrue
(in 2008-10-31 they are still outcommented)
But to make this work on windows a few additional steps were necessary:
1. texexec --make --alone metafun (as Wolfgang already mentioned)
2. copy the new metafun.mem from \Documents and
Settings\username\.texlive2008\texmf-var\web2c\ to the 'normal' texmf
directory (\texlive\2008\texmf-var\web2c\metapost).
3. Enable write18 in the texmf.cnf
4. remake the formats
Greetings
Thomas
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2008-11-04 11:16 backgrounds: help needed Peter Münster
2009-01-20 22:51 ` Alan BRASLAU
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2009-01-25 18:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-01-27 8:50 ` backgrounds: help needed Thomas Floeren
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