Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[Tomas Hala]

Hi all,

I have got two "same" documents which differ at the left side when the hanging punctuation has been enabled. 
The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language and font independent problem.)

How can I persuade macro \quotation to move the punctuation outside the frame?

Best wishes,

Tomáš

%%% MWE:
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\definefontfeature  [default]   [default]  [protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]

\starttext\showframe
one \hfill two \crlf „three“ four \par
one \hfill two \crlf \quotation{three} four
\stoptext

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Re: Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Tomas Hala schrieb am 22.11.2019 um 18:55:
> Hi all,
>
> I have got two "same" documents which differ at the left side when the hanging punctuation has been enabled.
> The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language and font independent problem.)
>
> How can I persuade macro \quotation to move the punctuation outside the frame?
\setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font]

Wolfgang

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Re: Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[Tomas Hala]

Hi Wolfgang, 

great! Thank you very much.

Tomáš 

Fri, Nov 22, 2019 ve 07:03:42PM +0100 Wolfgang Schuster napsal(a):
# Tomas Hala schrieb am 22.11.2019 um 18:55:
# >Hi all,
# >
# >I have got two "same" documents which differ at the left side when the hanging punctuation has been enabled.
# >The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language and font independent problem.)
# >
# >How can I persuade macro \quotation to move the punctuation outside the frame?
# \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font]
# 
# Wolfgang
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Re: Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[denis.maier.lists]

Hi,

is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX, but I don't know how to replicate this behavior in ConTeXt.

Best,
Denis

> denis.maier@mailbox.org hat am 23. November 2019 um 00:27 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I 
> think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX, but I don't 
> know how to replicate this behavior in ConTeXt.
> 
> Best,
> Denis
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Wolfgang 
> Schuster
> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2019 19:04
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks 
> and \quotation
> 
> Tomas Hala schrieb am 22.11.2019 um 18:55:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have got two "same" documents which differ at the left side when the 
> > hanging punctuation has been enabled.
> > The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language
> > and font independent problem.)
> >
> > How can I persuade macro \quotation to move the punctuation outside the 
> > frame?
> \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font]
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Re: Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[Wolfgang Schuster]

denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org schrieb am 23.11.2019 um 00:43:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX, but I don't know how to replicate this behavior in ConTeXt.

\setupfontprotrusion [quality] [left=0]

Wolfgang

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Re: Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[denis.maier.lists]

> Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> hat am 23. November 2019 um 10:06 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org schrieb am 23.11.2019 um 00:43:
> > Hi,
> >
> > is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX, but I don't know how to replicate this behavior in ConTeXt.
> 
> \setupfontprotrusion [quality] [left=0]
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

Cool. Thank you.
But, where could I have found this information myself? There is nothing on the wiki about this command.

Best,
Denis
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Re: Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 2019-11-24 um 22:22 schrieb denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org:
> 
>> Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> hat am 23. November 2019 um 10:06 geschrieben:
>> 
>> 
>> denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org schrieb am 23.11.2019 um 00:43:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX, but I don't know how to replicate this behavior in ConTeXt.
>> 
>> \setupfontprotrusion [quality] [left=0]
>> 
>> Wolfgang
>> 
> 
> Cool. Thank you.
> But, where could I have found this information myself? There is nothing on the wiki about this command.

Maybe in the source?
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/hand-ini.mkiv

Now there is: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupfontprotrusion


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