setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[Otared Kavian]

Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,

I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and Mac OS X 10.6.2).

Has anyone else noticed this problem? 

Thanks in advance: OK
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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,
>
> I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
> I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and Mac OS X 10.6.2).
>
> Has anyone else noticed this problem?
>

\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext


No problem here with
# context --version
MTXrun | main context file:
/opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13

root@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv# luatex --credits
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009110210


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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:31, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,
>
> I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).

May I ask you to fetch the new version of first-setup.sh, run it and retry?

You are on Snow Leopard. Yes, it's expected to break (sorry) because
so many people have been complaining that they want 64-bit binaries
(and I could have written a visible warning to the mailing list which
I forgot to do). I hoped for the fact that the number of SL users is
small enough, so that they would be willing to rerun first-setup and
fetch the 64-bit binaries.

I decided to patch to detect SL, then changed my mind, and then
changed my mind again after Hans figured out that he's not able to
boot with 64-bit kernel and requested to support 64-bit platforms
automatically.

If you would boot into 64-bit mode (try to boot by holding down keys 4
and 6), it would not work at all without replacing the version of
first-setup.sh that you currently use.

Sure, we should provide fat binaries, but ... two years ago I was
still working on 56k connection during weekends (if anyone wants usb
modem, let me know :). The distribution arose from my desire for not
having to fetch Hans' one-line patches in 4MB zips several times per
day. Fat binaries would mean some 60 MB of extra space (and I consider
that a waste of resources).

> I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and Mac OS X 10.6.2).

What changes do you have in mind?

> Has anyone else noticed this problem?

Yes, me, sorry.

Mojca
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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[Otared Kavian]

On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:36, luigi scarso wrote:

> […]
> No problem here with
> # context --version
> MTXrun | main context file:
> /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
> MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13
> 
> root@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv# luatex --credits
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009110210

Thanks Luigi for your attention.

Typesetting the following file

%%%% basic-test.tex

\starttext

This file has been typeset 
on \currentdate{} 
at \currenttime, 
with 
\doifmodeelse{mkiv}
	{mkiv, 
	LuaTeX version \the\luatexversion,
	LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
	(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp),
	using the command: \par
	\type{context basic-test.tex}\par}
	{mkii, 
	using the command: \par
	\type{texexec basic-test.tex}\par}
	ConTeXt version \contextversion.

\stoptex
%%%% end basic-test.tex

before updating to 2009-11-24 release, I get a correct behaviour and the file is typeset with a log having these lines:

……Setting "//context-minimal/tex" as TEXROOT instead.
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009103007
 \write18 enabled.
……

After updating to today's release, I get an error message
………  /usr/texbin/context: Permission denied
………

However upon changing the setuptex files of the latest release and replacing them with a previous version the typesetting works fine again with a log file having these lines:
………This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.45.0-2009111904
 \write18 enabled.
………

Looks like the new setuptex files behave differently, or has something changed with first-setup.sh?

Thanks again: OK

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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[Otared Kavian]

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Hi Mojca,

Thanks for your message and attention: I replied to Luigi's message and the saw your answer…
I am going to do what you suggest and the let you know.

I'll write you again in a few minutes…

Best regards: OK

On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:31, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,
>> 
>> I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
> 
> May I ask you to fetch the new version of first-setup.sh, run it and retry?
> 
> You are on Snow Leopard. Yes, it's expected to break (sorry) because
> so many people have been complaining that they want 64-bit binaries
> (and I could have written a visible warning to the mailing list which
> I forgot to do). I hoped for the fact that the number of SL users is
> small enough, so that they would be willing to rerun first-setup and
> fetch the 64-bit binaries.
> 
> I decided to patch to detect SL, then changed my mind, and then
> changed my mind again after Hans figured out that he's not able to
> boot with 64-bit kernel and requested to support 64-bit platforms
> automatically.
> 
> If you would boot into 64-bit mode (try to boot by holding down keys 4
> and 6), it would not work at all without replacing the version of
> first-setup.sh that you currently use.
> 
> Sure, we should provide fat binaries, but ... two years ago I was
> still working on 56k connection during weekends (if anyone wants usb
> modem, let me know :). The distribution arose from my desire for not
> having to fetch Hans' one-line patches in 4MB zips several times per
> day. Fat binaries would mean some 60 MB of extra space (and I consider
> that a waste of resources).
> 
>> I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and Mac OS X 10.6.2).
> 
> What changes do you have in mind?
> 
>> Has anyone else noticed this problem?
> 
> Yes, me, sorry.
> 
> Mojca
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Département de Mathématiques
Université de Versailles Saint-Quentin
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78035 Versailles cedex

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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 16:08, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> Looks like the new setuptex files behave differently, or has something changed with first-setup.sh?

Both.

Mojca
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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:36, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> […]
>> No problem here with
>> # context --version
>> MTXrun | main context file:
>> /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>> MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13
>>
>> root@john:/opt/luatex/test-mkiv# luatex --credits
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.44.0-2009110210
>
> Thanks Luigi for your attention.
>
> Typesetting the following file
>
> %%%% basic-test.tex
>
> \starttext
>
> This file has been typeset
> on \currentdate{}
> at \currenttime,
> with
> \doifmodeelse{mkiv}
>        {mkiv,
>        LuaTeX version \the\luatexversion,
>        LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
>        (LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp),
>        using the command: \par
>        \type{context basic-test.tex}\par}
>        {mkii,
>        using the command: \par
>        \type{texexec basic-test.tex}\par}
>        ConTeXt version \contextversion.
>
> \stoptex
> %%%% end basic-test.tex
\stoptext
 %%%% end basic-test.tex

it works ok here

This file has been typeset on November 24, 2009 at 16:17, with mkiv,
LuaTeX version 44, LuaTeX revision 0, (LuaTeX date stamp 2009110210),
using the command: context basic-test.tex ConTeXt version 2009.11.24
10:13.





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Re: setuptex files broken in the latest release 2009-11-24

[Otared Kavian]

Dear Mojca,

I did what you suggest.
Now, after updating first-setup.sh, the behaviour is different but neither mkii nor mkiv work… In my log file I obtain only
………MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

and no typesetting.

However, as I said in my previous explanations, replacing the setuptex files (there are 4 of them…), I can use the latest release of 2009-11-24 10:13.
So to my understanding everything boils down to an issue with the new setuptex files (I don't change anything regarding 32 or 64 bit mode).

Many thanks again… 
Best regards: OK


On 24 nov. 2009, at 15:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:31, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, maybe more particularly Mojca,
>> 
>> I noticed that in the latest release of the minimals (ConTeXt version 2009.11.24 10:13) something is broken: neither mkii nor mkiv work (actually this happened also with the release of Friday November 20, then it was solved with November 23 release and again it appeared today…).
> 
> May I ask you to fetch the new version of first-setup.sh, run it and retry?
> 
> You are on Snow Leopard. Yes, it's expected to break (sorry) because
> so many people have been complaining that they want 64-bit binaries
> (and I could have written a visible warning to the mailing list which
> I forgot to do). I hoped for the fact that the number of SL users is
> small enough, so that they would be willing to rerun first-setup and
> fetch the 64-bit binaries.
> 
> I decided to patch to detect SL, then changed my mind, and then
> changed my mind again after Hans figured out that he's not able to
> boot with 64-bit kernel and requested to support 64-bit platforms
> automatically.
> 
> If you would boot into 64-bit mode (try to boot by holding down keys 4
> and 6), it would not work at all without replacing the version of
> first-setup.sh that you currently use.
> 
> Sure, we should provide fat binaries, but ... two years ago I was
> still working on 56k connection during weekends (if anyone wants usb
> modem, let me know :). The distribution arose from my desire for not
> having to fetch Hans' one-line patches in 4MB zips several times per
> day. Fat binaries would mean some 60 MB of extra space (and I consider
> that a waste of resources).
> 
>> I could solve the problem by replacing the setuptex files coming with the latest release by those of ConTeXt version 2009.11.13 12:45: now I can typeset my files even with Math-Times and mkiv… (Working on a macBook Pro and Mac OS X 10.6.2).
> 
> What changes do you have in mind?
> 
>> Has anyone else noticed this problem?
> 
> Yes, me, sorry.
> 
> Mojca
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%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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Département de Mathématiques
Université de Versailles Saint-Quentin
Bâtiment Fermat
45 aveue des Etats Unis
78035 Versailles cedex

Téléphone: +33 1 39 25 46 42
Secrétariat: +33 1 39 25 46 44 
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