* header entries semi-wrong
@ 2011-03-06 10:56 Steffen Wolfrum
2011-03-10 13:38 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2011-03-10 14:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2011-03-06 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
please run the minimal example attached:
--on page 1 there is
section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
- on page 3 there is still
section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
- on page 5 there is
section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
Steffen
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% ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV
\showframe
\setupbodyfont[postscript, 10pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\definepapersize[Pape][width=14.7cm,height=22.3cm]
\setuppapersize[Pape][Pape]
\setuplayout
[width=113mm,height=572pt\relax,
backspace=17mm,topspace=17mm,
header=12pt,headerdistance=6pt,
footer=36pt,footerdistance=0pt,
location=middle,marking=off]
\setupwhitespace[halfline]
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setupheader[align=middle]
\def\HeadL{Part {\convertnumber{Numbers}{\namedheadnumber{chapter}}}\enskip\getmarking[EbeneEins]}
\def\HeadR{\headnumber[section]\enskip\getmarking[section]}
\setupheadertexts
[\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadR\stopalignment}] [pagenumber]
[pagenumber] [\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadL\stopalignment}]
\starttext
\chapter{X}
\section{One}
\page x \page
\dorecurse{5}{\input ward \par}
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\section{Two}
\dorecurse{11}{\input ward \par}
\stoptext
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2011-03-06 10:56 header entries semi-wrong Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2011-03-10 13:38 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2011-03-10 13:59 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-10 14:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2011-03-10 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 06.03.2011 um 11:56 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> --on page 1 there is
> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
> - on page 3 there is still
> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
> - on page 5 there is
> section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
>
> you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
> while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
Could some maybe please have look at my test file (see original post):
Is this "asynchronous"head a bug or am I simply doing something wrong??
Steffen
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* Re: header entries semi-wrong
2011-03-10 13:38 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2011-03-10 13:59 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-10 14:16 ` Willi Egger
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-03-10 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>
> Am 06.03.2011 um 11:56 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> --on page 1 there is
>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
>> - on page 3 there is still
>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
>> - on page 5 there is
>> section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
>>
>> you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
>> while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
>
>
>
> Could some maybe please have look at my test file (see original post):
> Is this "asynchronous"head a bug or am I simply doing something wrong??
I don't know, but with
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\section{Two}
things go better.
--
luigi
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2011-03-10 13:59 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-03-10 14:16 ` Willi Egger
2011-03-10 14:55 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Willi Egger @ 2011-03-10 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I agree with Luigi, after using different length and \page I was able to produce correct output.
According to me your example is probably a border case.
Willi
On 10 Mar 2011, at 14:59, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>>
>> Am 06.03.2011 um 11:56 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>
>>> --on page 1 there is
>>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
>>> - on page 3 there is still
>>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
>>> - on page 5 there is
>>> section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
>>>
>>> you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
>>> while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
>>
>>
>>
>> Could some maybe please have look at my test file (see original post):
>> Is this "asynchronous"head a bug or am I simply doing something wrong??
> I don't know, but with
>
> \dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
> \page
> \section{Two}
>
> things go better.
>
> --
> luigi
\showframe
\setupbodyfont[postscript, 10pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\definepapersize[Pape][width=14.7cm,height=22.3cm]
\setuppapersize[Pape][Pape]
\setuplayout
[width=113mm,height=572pt\relax,
backspace=17mm,topspace=17mm,
header=12pt,headerdistance=6pt,
footer=36pt,footerdistance=0pt,
location=middle,marking=off]
\setupwhitespace[halfline]
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setupheader[align=middle]
\mainlanguage[de]
\def\HeadL{Part {\convertnumber{Numbers}{\namedheadnumber{chapter}}}\enskip\getmarking[EbeneEins]}
\def\HeadR{\headnumber[section]\enskip\getmarking[section][current]}
\setupheadertexts
[\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadR\stopalignment}] [pagenumber]
[pagenumber] [\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadL\stopalignment}]
\starttext
\chapter{X}
\section{One}
\dorecurse{9}{\input ward \par}
% \dorecurse{5}{\input ward \par}
%\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\strut\page
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\section{Two}
\dorecurse{11}{\input ward \par}
\page
\section{Three}
\dorecurse{11}{\input ward \par}
\stoptext
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2011-03-10 14:16 ` Willi Egger
@ 2011-03-10 14:55 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2011-03-10 14:59 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2011-03-10 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Of course, manually tweaking helps.
Only, one needs to see that here is a page where tweaking is needed!
And this is the problem:
The head says "1.2 one", but it should be "1.1 one"!
First I trusted the automated head entries, then I realized it can be wrong and now I skim typeset books before sending them to printer.
But when skimming a book it is quite likely to not-see the wrong "1" when seeing the correct "one"!
Is there no way to automatically get the correct number information "1.1" that is corresponding to the correct text entry "one"??
"\getmarking[section]" provides the right information,
"\headnumber[section]" is too far in border cases ...
Isn't there a command that gets the number that belongs to the text of "\getmarking[section]"
Steffen
Am 10.03.2011 um 15:16 schrieb Willi Egger:
> I agree with Luigi, after using different length and \page I was able to produce correct output.
> According to me your example is probably a border case.
>
> Willi
>
> On 10 Mar 2011, at 14:59, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 06.03.2011 um 11:56 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>
>>>> --on page 1 there is
>>>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
>>>> - on page 3 there is still
>>>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
>>>> - on page 5 there is
>>>> section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
>>>>
>>>> you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
>>>> while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could some maybe please have look at my test file (see original post):
>>> Is this "asynchronous"head a bug or am I simply doing something wrong??
>> I don't know, but with
>>
>> \dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
>> \page
>> \section{Two}
>>
>> things go better.
>>
>> --
>> luigi
>
> \showframe
> \setupbodyfont[postscript, 10pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
>
> \definepapersize[Pape][width=14.7cm,height=22.3cm]
> \setuppapersize[Pape][Pape]
> \setuplayout
> [width=113mm,height=572pt\relax,
> backspace=17mm,topspace=17mm,
> header=12pt,headerdistance=6pt,
> footer=36pt,footerdistance=0pt,
> location=middle,marking=off]
> \setupwhitespace[halfline]
> \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]
> \setupheader[align=middle]
>
> \mainlanguage[de]
>
> \def\HeadL{Part {\convertnumber{Numbers}{\namedheadnumber{chapter}}}\enskip\getmarking[EbeneEins]}
> \def\HeadR{\headnumber[section]\enskip\getmarking[section][current]}
>
> \setupheadertexts
> [\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadR\stopalignment}] [pagenumber]
> [pagenumber] [\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadL\stopalignment}]
>
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{X}
> \section{One}
> \dorecurse{9}{\input ward \par}
> % \dorecurse{5}{\input ward \par}
> %\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
> \page
> \strut\page
> \dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
> \section{Two}
> \dorecurse{11}{\input ward \par}
>
> \page
>
> \section{Three}
> \dorecurse{11}{\input ward \par}
>
> \stoptext
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2011-03-10 14:55 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2011-03-10 14:59 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-10 15:02 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-10 15:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-03-10 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 10.03.2011 um 15:55 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Isn't there a command that gets the number that belongs to the text of "\getmarking[section]"
\getmarking[sectionnumber] % partnumber, chapternumber etc.
Wolfgang
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* Re: header entries semi-wrong
2011-03-10 14:59 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-03-10 15:02 ` luigi scarso
2011-03-10 15:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-03-10 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 10.03.2011 um 15:55 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Isn't there a command that gets the number that belongs to the text of "\getmarking[section]"
>
> \getmarking[sectionnumber] % partnumber, chapternumber etc.
>
> Wolfgang
Right: this works ok.
\showframe
\setupbodyfont[postscript, 10pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]
\definepapersize[Pape][width=14.7cm,height=22.3cm]
\setuppapersize[Pape][Pape]
\setuplayout
[width=113mm,height=572pt\relax,
backspace=17mm,topspace=17mm,
header=12pt,headerdistance=6pt,
footer=36pt,footerdistance=0pt,
location=middle,marking=off]
\setupwhitespace[halfline]
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setupheader[align=middle]
%\def\HeadL{Part
{\convertnumber{Numbers}{\namedheadnumber{chapter}}}\enskip\getmarking[section][first]}%[EbeneEins]}
%\def\HeadR{\headnumber[section]\enskip\getmarking[section][first]}
\def\HeadL{Part
{\convertnumber{Numbers}{\namedheadnumber{chapter}}}\enskip\getmarking[EbeneEins]}
\def\HeadR{\getmarking[sectionnumber]\enskip\getmarking[section]}
\setupheadertexts
[\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadR\stopalignment}] [pagenumber]
[pagenumber] [\vtop{\startalignment[center]\HeadL\stopalignment}]
\starttext
\chapter{X}
\section{One}
\page x \page
\dorecurse{5}{\input ward \par}
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\section{Two}
\dorecurse{11}{\input ward \par}
\stoptext
--
luigi
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2011-03-10 14:59 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2011-03-10 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 10.03.2011 um 15:59 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 10.03.2011 um 15:55 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Isn't there a command that gets the number that belongs to the text of "\getmarking[section]"
>
> \getmarking[sectionnumber] % partnumber, chapternumber etc.
Yes!
"\getmarking[sectionnumber]"
This one I have been seeking for so long now.
Wolfgang, the Living ConTeXt Reference :o)
Thank you so much for your response!
Steffen
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* Re: header entries semi-wrong
2011-03-06 10:56 header entries semi-wrong Steffen Wolfrum
2011-03-10 13:38 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2011-03-10 14:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-10 14:48 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-03-10 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 06.03.2011 um 11:56 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Hi,
>
> please run the minimal example attached:
>
> --on page 1 there is
> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
> - on page 3 there is still
> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
> - on page 5 there is
> section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
>
> you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
> while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
>
> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
TeX reads always more text than it needs for a page and in your example
the “Section 1.2” was seen by TeX when it was building page 3 although
it didn’t fit and was postponed till page 4.
Wolfgang
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* Re: header entries semi-wrong
2011-03-10 14:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-03-10 14:48 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2011-03-10 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 10.03.2011 um 15:26 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 06.03.2011 um 11:56 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> please run the minimal example attached:
>>
>> --on page 1 there is
>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.1 one"
>> - on page 3 there is still
>> section "1.1 one" and you get the header entry "1.2 one" (<- ?!)
>> - on page 5 there is
>> section "1.2 two" and you get the header entry "1.2 two"
>>
>> you see the problem? the "getmarking" behaves correctly (one/one/two)
>> while the "headnumber" is confused (1.1/1.2/1.2))!
>>
>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> TeX reads always more text than it needs for a page and in your example
> the “Section 1.2” was seen by TeX when it was building page 3 although
> it didn’t fit and was postponed till page 4.
Sure, but why does TeX write "1.2 one"? The second part "one" is correct ...
Why can't both parts be synchronized (correctly of course!)??
Steffen
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* Re: header entries semi-wrong
2011-03-10 14:48 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2011-03-10 14:57 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-03-10 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steffen Wolfrum; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 10.03.2011 um 15:48 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Sure, but why does TeX write "1.2 one"? The second part "one" is correct ...
> Why can't both parts be synchronized (correctly of course!)??
It’s because \headnumber is macro expansion which happens when TeX collects
material for the page and \getmarking use TeX’s mark mechanism which is
meant for elements which are added after the page is finished.
Here is a example which shows a problem with expansion:
\setuplayout[lines=10]
\def\foo{foo}
\appendtoks\gdef\foo{bar}\to\everyaftershipout
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{\foo\par}
\stoptext
What you can do is to create a new mark with \definemarking where
you set \headnumber and which you then use in the header.
Wolfgang
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