From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/11435 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Henning Hraban Ramm Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:34:48 +0100 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030312212058.024b3a00@server-1> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047678867 15174 80.91.224.249 (14 Mar 2003 21:54:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Fri Mar 14 22:54:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18tx8D-0003wY-00 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:54:25 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C208F10B26; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:55:11 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6A110B25 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:50:54 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tx4o-0001gw-00 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:50:54 +0100 Original-Received: from [194.230.123.250] (helo=fiee.net) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tx4n-0003Q5-00 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:50:54 +0100 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030312212058.024b3a00@server-1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:11435 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:11435 > Right, and that is why so many docs look bad! Those metrics differ.=20 > The same for times: adobe times metrics even differ/change over time=20= > (nelson beebe has done some excellent research on this; see pdftex=20 > mail archives); this is the main reason why i stick to urw times and=20= > palatino etc. Also, they go well with math times (tx) and math=20 > palatino (px). Even worse with some Linotype fonts: They even changed the encoding=20 without changing the name on "Linotype Gold 6". Ok, now it's fixed, but only after some=20= firms refused to pay their ten thousand euro licenses for a software that only causes=20= trouble... > well, as far as i know adobe stopped adding the famous 15 to=20 > distributions; also, beware: acrobat will replace helvetica etc by the=20= > system specific preference, which of course has different metrics=20 > (arial on windows), and again, is one reason why files start looking=20= > real ugly. No, not system specific: Acrobat is delivered with Arial, TimesNewRoman=20= etc. even for Macintosh! (since Acrobat 4) Gr=FC=DFlis vom Hraban! --=20 www.fiee.net/texnique/