Choosing font range

Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

Is it possible have say Pagella in math, and also in \tt except for the ASCII range, where a monospace font is used? (Both for largely untranslated Unicode points.)


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Re: Choosing font range

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 06/16/2017 02:44 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
> Is it possible have say Pagella in math, and also in \tt except for
> the ASCII range, where a monospace font is used? (Both for largely
> untranslated Unicode points.)

Hans,

I’m not sure this is what you want:

    \definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
        [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella]
    \setupbodyfont[mainface]
    \starttext
    abd 312 ásñeäæø

    \tt abd 312 ásñeäæø
    \stoptext

Just in case it might help,

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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 16 Jun 2017, at 20:46, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
> On 06/16/2017 02:44 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>> Is it possible have say Pagella in math, and also in \tt except for
>> the ASCII range, where a monospace font is used? (Both for largely
>> untranslated Unicode points.)
> 
> I’m not sure this is what you want:
> 
>    \definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
>        [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella]
>    \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>    \starttext
>    abd 312 ásñeäæø
> 
>    \tt abd 312 ásñeäæø
>    \stoptext
> 
> Just in case it might help,

Thank you for the help. But the math characters do not show in \tt, as in the example below. (Tried with TeX Live 2017.)


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\definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
     [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]

\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal, default=normal]

\starttext

\startformula
  𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨)
\stopformula

\starttyping
  axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨).
\stoptyping

{\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨).}

\stoptext
----


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Re: Choosing font range

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 06/16/2017 09:34 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
> Thank you for the help. But the math characters do not show in \tt,
> as in the example below. (Tried with TeX Live 2017.)
> [...]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella]

I don’t do math (at all, not only with ConTeXt), but the following
command seems to work:

    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]

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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 16 Jun 2017, at 21:46, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
> On 06/16/2017 09:34 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>> Thank you for the help. But the math characters do not show in \tt,
>> as in the example below. (Tried with TeX Live 2017.)
> 
> I don’t do math (at all, not only with ConTeXt), but the following
> command seems to work:
> 
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]

Great! That seems to work in \tt, but for some reson not with \starttyping. Probably one should set the font, But I can't find info about it.


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Re: Choosing font range

[Pablo Rodriguez]

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On 06/16/2017 10:07 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>> On 16 Jun 2017, at 21:46, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
>> [...]
>> I don’t do math (at all, not only with ConTeXt), but the following
>> command seems to work:
>>
>>    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
> 
> Great! That seems to work in \tt, but for some reason not with
> \starttyping. Probably one should set the font, But I can't find info
> about it.

This is my sample:

    \definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
         [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]

    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]

    \setupbodyfont[mainface]

    \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal, default=normal]

    \starttext
    \startformula
      𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨)
    \stopformula

    \starttyping
      axiom B1. 𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨).
    \stoptyping

    {\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨).}

With latest beta (from 2017.06.15 22:10) and LuaTeX-1.05.0, I get three
formulas typeset with Pagella Math. (Output attached.)

If this doesn’t work with TeX Live 2017, you might try the latest beta
from the ConTeXt Suite.

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Re: Choosing font range

[Henri Menke]

On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 22:07 +0200, Hans Åberg wrote:
> > 
> > On 16 Jun 2017, at 21:46, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> > 
> > On 06/16/2017 09:34 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thank you for the help. But the math characters do not show in \tt,
> > > as in the example below. (Tried with TeX Live 2017.)
> > I don’t do math (at all, not only with ConTeXt), but the following
> > command seems to work:
> > 
> >    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
> Great! That seems to work in \tt, but for some reson not with \starttyping. Probably one should
> set the font, But I can't find info about it.

The fallback mechanism has changed in a non-trivial manner since TL2017.  You have to go with beta.

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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 17 Jun 2017, at 07:36, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
> On 06/16/2017 10:07 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> On 16 Jun 2017, at 21:46, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> I don’t do math (at all, not only with ConTeXt), but the following
>>> command seems to work:
>>> 
>>>   \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>> 
>> Great! That seems to work in \tt, but for some reason not with
>> \starttyping. Probably one should set the font, But I can't find info
>> about it.
> 
> This is my sample:
> 
>    \definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
>         [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]
> 
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
> 
>    \setupbodyfont[mainface]
> 
>    \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal, default=normal]
> 
>    \starttext
>    \startformula
>      𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨)
>    \stopformula
> 
>    \starttyping
>      axiom B1. 𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨).
>    \stoptyping
> 
>    {\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ (𝑩 ⇒ 𝑨).}
> 
> With latest beta (from 2017.06.15 22:10) and LuaTeX-1.05.0, I get three
> formulas typeset with Pagella Math. (Output attached.)
> 
> If this doesn’t work with TeX Live 2017, you might try the latest beta
> from the ConTeXt Suite.


Yes, that is the problem. It works fine with latest beta.

I found a strange bug with the \tt command: when copying from the PDF, the spaces disappear. With your header above, I get (the comments is the text copy from the PDF):

{\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ 𝑩.}
%axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ 𝑩.

{\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ 𝑩 α.}
%axiomA1. 𝑨⇒𝑩α.

That is, when adding a single symbol, above "α", but it does not seem to matter which, the spaces disappear.

It does not happen with \starttext, though.


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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 17 Jun 2017, at 08:33, Henri Menke <henrimenke@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 22:07 +0200, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 16 Jun 2017, at 21:46, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 06/16/2017 09:34 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for the help. But the math characters do not show in \tt,
>>>> as in the example below. (Tried with TeX Live 2017.)
>>> I don’t do math (at all, not only with ConTeXt), but the following
>>> command seems to work:
>>> 
>>>    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>> Great! That seems to work in \tt, but for some reson not with \starttyping. Probably one should
>> set the font, But I can't find info about it.
> 
> The fallback mechanism has changed in a non-trivial manner since TL2017.  You have to go with beta.

Yes, it works in latest beta. There is a TeX Live updating utility, at least on the MacOS distribution, that allows for server synchronizations between the yearly updates.  

I found a strange bug with the \tt command, where the spaces disappear when copying from the PDF—see my other post in this thread. It occurs when adding a single symbol; it does not seem to matter which. It does not happen with \starttext, though.


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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 17 Jun 2017, at 08:33, Henri Menke <henrimenke@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The fallback mechanism has changed in a non-trivial manner since TL2017.  You have to go with beta.

I looked at various fonts, and they all have at least some math characters that look strange to me. So I figure one has to make a virtual font from ranges.


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Re: Choosing font range

[Pablo Rodriguez]

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On 06/17/2017 10:11 AM, Hans Åberg wrote:
> [...]
> Yes, that is the problem. It works fine with latest beta.
> 
> I found a strange bug with the \tt command: when copying from the
> PDF, the spaces disappear. With your header above, I get (the
> comments is the text copy from the PDF):
> [...]
> That is, when adding a single symbol, above "α", but it does not
> seem to matter which, the spaces disappear.

I get right spaces with latest beta from:

    \definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
         [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]

    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
    \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]

    \setupbodyfont[mainface]

    \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal, default=normal]

    \starttext
    {\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ 𝑩.}


    {\tt axiom A1. 𝑨 ⇒ 𝑩 α.}
    \stoptext

I used evince, xpdf, Acrobat, FoxitReader and mupdf. (Output enclosed
with \starttext commented.)

> It does not happen with \starttext, though.

Sorry, but I’m afraid I don’t know what you mean. I get the same results
commenting \starttext.

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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 17 Jun 2017, at 12:11, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
> On 06/17/2017 10:11 AM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>> [...]
>> Yes, that is the problem. It works fine with latest beta.
>> 
>> I found a strange bug with the \tt command: when copying from the
>> PDF, the spaces disappear. With your header above, I get (the
>> comments is the text copy from the PDF):
>> [...]
>> That is, when adding a single symbol, above "α", but it does not
>> seem to matter which, the spaces disappear.
> 
> I get right spaces with latest beta from:

> I used evince, xpdf, Acrobat, FoxitReader and mupdf. (Output enclosed
> with \starttext commented.)

It looks right in the PDF, but not when copying them and pasting into a text only file. 

>> It does not happen with \starttext, though.
> 
> Sorry, but I’m afraid I don’t know what you mean. I get the same results
> commenting \starttext.

By contrast, copy-PDF paste text came our right here.


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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 17 Jun 2017, at 12:11, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
> On 06/17/2017 10:11 AM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>> [...]
>> Yes, that is the problem. It works fine with latest beta.
>> 
>> I found a strange bug with the \tt command: when copying from the
>> PDF, the spaces disappear. With your header above, I get (the
>> comments is the text copy from the PDF):
>> [...]
>> That is, when adding a single symbol, above "α", but it does not
>> seem to matter which, the spaces disappear.
> 
> I get right spaces with latest beta...

I do not get the Unicode subscript and superscript numbers in \tt and \starttyping:

\definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
        [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]

 \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]

 \setupbodyfont[mainface]

 \setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal, default=normal]

 \starttext

 \startformula
   𝑨¹₁, 𝑨¹₁ ⇒ 𝑩¹₁ ⊢ 𝑩¹₁.
 \stopformula

 \starttyping
   rule MP. 𝑨¹₁, 𝑨¹₁ ⇒ 𝑩¹₁ ⊢ 𝑩¹₁.
 \stoptyping

{\tt rule MP. 𝑨¹₁, 𝑨¹₁ ⇒ 𝑩¹₁ ⊢ 𝑩¹₁.}

 \stoptext


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Re: Choosing font range

[Hans Åberg]

> On 17 Jun 2017, at 15:16, Hans Åberg <haberg-1@telia.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 17 Jun 2017, at 12:11, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
>> 
>> On 06/17/2017 10:11 AM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Yes, that is the problem. It works fine with latest beta.
>>> 
>>> I found a strange bug with the \tt command: when copying from the
>>> PDF, the spaces disappear. With your header above, I get (the
>>> comments is the text copy from the PDF):
>>> [...]
>>> That is, when adding a single symbol, above "α", but it does not
>>> seem to matter which, the spaces disappear.
>> 
>> I get right spaces with latest beta...
> 
> I do not get the Unicode subscript and superscript numbers in \tt and \starttyping:

It is due to the font: they are in STIX Two Math:

\definefallbackfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
        [range={basiclatin, digitslatin}, force=yes]

\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
\definefontfamily[mainface][tt][STIX Two Math]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\setupmathematics[lcgreek=normal, default=normal]

\starttext

\startformula
 𝑨¹₁, 𝑨¹₁ ⇒ 𝑩¹₁ ⊢ 𝑩¹₁.
\stopformula

\starttyping
 rule MP. 𝑨¹₁, 𝑨¹₁ ⇒ 𝑩¹₁ ⊢ 𝑩¹₁.
\stoptyping

{\tt rule MP. 𝑨¹₁, 𝑨¹₁ ⇒ 𝑩¹₁ ⊢ 𝑩¹₁.}

\stoptext



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