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([82.113.106.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm2849137fga.32.2009.03.05.04.01.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:01:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.220.167; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 189031537 - 49215f44065f X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:47992 Archived-At: Am 05.03.2009 um 12:27 schrieb luigi scarso: >> And you think it's a good idea to use \expandafter in your document? > TeX version, not context ... :) > btw > \expandafer is not so bad, if used moderatly . But don't make a beginner used to it, e.g. Stefan Kottwitz mentioned a few times how to append something to a existing macro in LaTeX forums and this is what I try to avoid for people who don't know what they are doing. http://texblog.net/latex-archive/plaintex/expandafter/ >> Nice solution and real alternative for package writers to avoid >> \expandafter >> and \expanded but nothing for a normal user, I should keep this in >> my mind. > Are you sure ? > What is a normal user ? People who want to use TeX to write a document but copy code from examples, old list messages etc. but don't why they have to do it something like this. > As soon as you use \dorecurse , you become a programmer . > > And sooner or later, everyone become a programmer, because it's > impossible to write a format that satisfied > all your needs . OK, it's hard to write a fancy layout without defining your own header styles etc. without a definition but use then as many high level contructs (\framed, \define, ...) as possible and try to avoid things like \vbox or \expandafter. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________