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List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6274912891646299402==" --===============6274912891646299402== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007db28d06117099e9" --0000000000007db28d06117099e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks everyone for the suggestions on the manuals. I knew the resource reported by Alain and, of course, that of Joaqu=C3=ADn, whose translation i= nto Italian I have completed, but not yet refined. However, I didn't know the file reported by Mikael, which I found to be an excellent tutorial to get started with. The documentation on ConTeXt is copious, and we know it: just look at the manuals on Contextgarden. But it is decidedly fragmented, and this disorientates the user. I believe, therefore, that what the community misses is a tutorial/reference manual/complete guide that comes *directly* from the ConTeXt team (Hans, Wolfgang, etc). And, above all, that it is up to date: on Contextgarden many =E2=80=98valid=E2=80=99 manuals date back to many yea= rs ago, and the obsolescence of the software guides could make people say something like =C2=ABwell, stuff from years ago, I don't trust it=C2=BB. A manual in a single file that has, in short, the seal of officiality: the various resources in circulation are just as many excellent efforts by individuals, who however have put their own approach to ConTeXt into their work. Perhaps there is a more correct approach than others, more essential, which is worth knowing. I am speaking to you as a LaTeX user, and therefore I may have written a lot of nonsense in my message. I conclude by saying that, in the end, the ConTeXt team may not be interested in all this, and therefore our discussions are pure academic. :) Ciao Tommaso Il giorno gio 15 feb 2024 alle ore 12:13 Aditya Mahajan ha scritto: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, Mikael Sundqvist wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This small example from BachoTeX 2023 could perhaps be useful for > > someone: https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep > > For tutorials, I had played around with using a git repo as a tutorial: > > https://github.com/adityam/context-slides-example/commits > > The following page is generated automatically from the git commit log: > https://adityam.github.io/context-blog/post/presentation-40-commits-redux= / > > Aditya > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror= ) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --0000000000007db28d06117099e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks everyone for the suggestions on the manuals. I knew= the resource reported by Alain and, of course, that of Joaqu=C3=ADn, whose= translation into Italian I have completed, but not yet refined.

How= ever, I didn't know the file reported by Mikael, which I found to be an= excellent tutorial to get started with.

The documentation on ConTeX= t is copious, and we know it: just look at the manuals on Contextgarden. Bu= t it is decidedly fragmented, and this disorientates the user.

I bel= ieve, therefore, that what the community misses is a tutorial/reference man= ual/complete guide that comes directly from the ConTeXt team (Hans, = Wolfgang, etc). And, above all, that it is up to date: on Contextgarden man= y =E2=80=98valid=E2=80=99 manuals date back to many years ago, and the obso= lescence of the software guides could make people say something like =C2=AB= well, stuff from years ago, I don't trust it=C2=BB.

A manual in = a single file that has, in short, the seal of officiality: the various reso= urces in circulation are just as many excellent efforts by individuals, who= however have put their own approach to ConTeXt into their work. Perhaps th= ere is a more correct approach than others, more essential, which is worth = knowing.

I am speaking to you as a LaTeX user, and therefore I may h= ave written a lot of nonsense in my message.
I conclude by saying that, = in the end, the ConTeXt team may not be interested in all this, and therefo= re our discussions are pure academic. :)

Ciao
<= div>Tommaso

Il giorno gio 15 feb 2024 alle ore 12:13 Aditya Mahajan &l= t;adityam@umich.edu> ha scritto= :
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, Mikael Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This small example from BachoTeX 2023 could perhaps be useful for
> someone: https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep

For tutorials, I had played around with using a git repo as a tutorial:

https://github.com/adityam/context-slides= -example/commits

The following page is generated automatically from the git commit log:
https://adityam.github.io/= context-blog/post/presentation-40-commits-redux/

Aditya
___________________________________________________________________________= ________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-cont= ext@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mail= man3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl
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