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* pararaph indent in footnote
@ 2005-06-22 11:58 Alan Bowen
  2005-06-22 15:40 ` Steve Grathwohl
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-06-22 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


How does one get ConTeXt to indent and space paragraphs in footnotes  
according to the same rules as the body text?

  I have checked the manual but do not see how to adapt  
\setupfootnotes to do this, and my attempts thus far with  
\setupfootnotedefinition have not been unsuccessful either.

Thanks for any help or pointers.

Alan

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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-22 11:58 pararaph indent in footnote Alan Bowen
@ 2005-06-22 15:40 ` Steve Grathwohl
  2005-06-22 16:11   ` Alan Bowen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steve Grathwohl @ 2005-06-22 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)



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My solution (worked out with Steve Peter and Hans at PracTeX Chapel Hill:
 \def\MyNum#1{\hskip2em\relax#1. }%\hskip your indent here
\setupnote[footnote][numbercommand=\MyNum]
\setupnotedefinition[footnote][location=left,hang=1]
 Of course, to have a superscripted number you say
\def\MyNum#1{\hskip2em\relax$^{#1}$
 Steve
 On 6/22/05, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote: 
> 
> How does one get ConTeXt to indent and space paragraphs in footnotes
> according to the same rules as the body text?
> 
> I have checked the manual but do not see how to adapt
> \setupfootnotes to do this, and my attempts thus far with
> \setupfootnotedefinition have not been unsuccessful either.
> 
> Thanks for any help or pointers.
> 
> Alan
> 
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-22 15:40 ` Steve Grathwohl
@ 2005-06-22 16:11   ` Alan Bowen
  2005-06-22 17:09     ` Peter Münster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-06-22 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)



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Steve—

Thanks for the reply, but it seems to me that this will affect only  
the spacing and placement of a footnote number in relation to the  
footnote proper—which is very cool and I will use what you have  
relayed. My immediate problem, however, is the paragraph indent in  
footnotes that have more than one paragraph.

Still, I take it that \setupnote and \setupnotedefinition are the  
commands I need.  Do you know where the documentation is for these  
commands? Is there a way to turn on indentation? I have checked the  
various PDF manuals and  they are not mentioned.

Alan

On Jun 22, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Steve Grathwohl wrote:

> My solution (worked out with Steve Peter and Hans at PracTeX Chapel  
> Hill:
>
> \def\MyNum#1{\hskip2em\relax#1. }%\hskip your indent here
> \setupnote[footnote][numbercommand=\MyNum]
> \setupnotedefinition[footnote][location=left,hang=1]
>
> Of course, to have a superscripted number you say
> \def\MyNum#1{\hskip2em\relax$^{#1}$
>
> Steve
>
> On 6/22/05, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote:
> How does one get ConTeXt to indent and space paragraphs in footnotes
> according to the same rules as the body text?
>
> I have checked the manual but do not see how to adapt
> \setupfootnotes to do this, and my attempts thus far with
> \setupfootnotedefinition have not been unsuccessful either.
>
> Thanks for any help or pointers.
>
> Alan
>
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-22 16:11   ` Alan Bowen
@ 2005-06-22 17:09     ` Peter Münster
  2005-06-22 21:58       ` Alan Bowen
  2005-06-22 22:48       ` Alan Bowen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2005-06-22 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Alan Bowen wrote:

> My immediate problem, however, is the paragraph indent in  
> footnotes that have more than one paragraph.

I don't know better, but this works:

\setupindenting[small]
\let\footnoteO\footnote
\long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#1}}
%% or
%\long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]\indent#1}}
\def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
\starttext
\SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
\stoptext

Cheers, Peter

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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-22 17:09     ` Peter Münster
@ 2005-06-22 21:58       ` Alan Bowen
  2005-06-22 22:48       ` Alan Bowen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-06-22 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


Peter—

Many thanks for your help! This solves the problem very nicely.

All best, Alan

On Jun 22, 2005, at 1:09 PM, Peter Münster wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>
>> My immediate problem, however, is the paragraph indent in
>> footnotes that have more than one paragraph.
>>
>
> I don't know better, but this works:
>
> \setupindenting[small]
> \let\footnoteO\footnote
> \long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#1}}
> %% or
> %\long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]\indent#1}}
> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
> \starttext
> \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
> \stoptext
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-22 17:09     ` Peter Münster
  2005-06-22 21:58       ` Alan Bowen
@ 2005-06-22 22:48       ` Alan Bowen
  2005-06-23  8:59         ` Vit Zyka
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-06-22 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)


Peter—

On further testing, I see that while I now have indented paragraphs  
in my footnotes, I no longer have the ability to name and cross- 
reference them. \footnote{footnote text} works well, but \footnote 
[name]{footnote text} now seems broken.

Alan

> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>
>
>> My immediate problem, however, is the paragraph indent in
>> footnotes that have more than one paragraph.
>>
>>
>
> I don't know better, but this works:
>
> \setupindenting[small]
> \let\footnoteO\footnote
> \long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#1}}
> %% or
> %\long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]\indent#1}}
> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
> \starttext
> \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
> \stoptext
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-22 22:48       ` Alan Bowen
@ 2005-06-23  8:59         ` Vit Zyka
  2005-06-23 15:28           ` Alan Bowen
  2005-07-22  2:11           ` pararaph indent in footnote (again) Alan Bowen
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2005-06-23  8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)


Alan Bowen wrote:
> Peter—
> 
> On further testing, I see that while I now have indented paragraphs  in 
> my footnotes, I no longer have the ability to name and cross- reference 
> them. \footnote{footnote text} works well, but \footnote [name]{footnote 
> text} now seems broken.
> 
> Alan
> 
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Alan Bowen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> My immediate problem, however, is the paragraph indent in
>>> footnotes that have more than one paragraph.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't know better, but this works:
>>
>> \setupindenting[small]
>> \let\footnoteO\footnote
>> \long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#1}}
>> %% or
>> %\long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]\indent#1}}
>> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
>> \starttext
>> \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
>> \stoptext

Try:

-------------------------------------
\setupindenting[small]

\let\footnoteO\footnote
\def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
\long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
   \iffirstargument
     \footnoteO[#1]{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
   \else
     \footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
   \fi
}
\def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
\starttext
   \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
\stoptext
--------------------------------------

cheers
vit


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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote
  2005-06-23  8:59         ` Vit Zyka
@ 2005-06-23 15:28           ` Alan Bowen
  2005-07-22  2:11           ` pararaph indent in footnote (again) Alan Bowen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-06-23 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


Vit—

That’s got it nicely. Many thanks!

Best, Alan

On Jun 23, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Vit Zyka wrote:

> Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> Peter—
>> On further testing, I see that while I now have indented  
>> paragraphs  in my footnotes, I no longer have the ability to name  
>> and cross- reference them. \footnote{footnote text} works well,  
>> but \footnote [name]{footnote text} now seems broken.
>> Alan
>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Alan Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> My immediate problem, however, is the paragraph indent in
>>>> footnotes that have more than one paragraph.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know better, but this works:
>>>
>>> \setupindenting[small]
>>> \let\footnoteO\footnote
>>> \long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#1}}
>>> %% or
>>> %\long\def\footnote#1{\footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]\indent#1}}
>>> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
>>> \starttext
>>> \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>
> Try:
>
> -------------------------------------
> \setupindenting[small]
>
> \let\footnoteO\footnote
> \def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
> \long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
>   \iffirstargument
>     \footnoteO[#1]{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>   \else
>     \footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>   \fi
> }
> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
> \starttext
>   \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
> \stoptext
> --------------------------------------
>
> cheers
> vit
>
>
> -- 
> =======================================================
> Ing. Vít Zýka, Ph.D.                         TYPOkvítek
>
> database publishing              databazove publikovani
> data maintaining and typesetting in typographic quality
> priprava dat a jejich sazba v typograficke kvalite
>
> tel.: (+420) 777 198 189     www: http://typokvitek.com
> =======================================================
>
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote (again)
  2005-06-23  8:59         ` Vit Zyka
  2005-06-23 15:28           ` Alan Bowen
@ 2005-07-22  2:11           ` Alan Bowen
  2005-07-22  8:10             ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-07-22  2:11 UTC (permalink / raw)



The latest version of ConTeXt (ver: 2005.07.20  fmt: 2005.7.21  int:  
english  mes: english) seems to have changed \setupindenting in such  
a way that

% for footnotes with paragraphs
\let\myfn\footnote
\def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
\long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
   \iffirstargument
         \myfn[#1]{\setupindenting[big]#2}%
   \else
     \myfn{\setupindenting[big]#2}%
   \fi
}
which was suggested by Vít Zyka and used to work perfectly, now does  
not. All my footnote paragraphs are now set without an indent.

Changing \setupindenting to \indenting does not seem to work (though  
it does in the body text for normal paragraphing). What am I missing?

Alan


On Jun 23, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Vit Zyka wrote:
> Try:
>
>
> -------------------------------------
> \setupindenting[small]
>
> \let\footnoteO\footnote
> \def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
> \long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
>   \iffirstargument
>     \footnoteO[#1]{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>   \else
>     \footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>   \fi
> }
> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
> \starttext
>   \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
> \stoptext
> --------------------------------------
>
> cheers
> vit
>
>
> -- 
> =======================================================
> Ing. Vít Zýka, Ph.D.                         TYPOkvítek
>
> database publishing              databazove publikovani
> data maintaining and typesetting in typographic quality
> priprava dat a jejich sazba v typograficke kvalite
>
> tel.: (+420) 777 198 189     www: http://typokvitek.com
> =======================================================
>
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote (again)
  2005-07-22  2:11           ` pararaph indent in footnote (again) Alan Bowen
@ 2005-07-22  8:10             ` Hans Hagen
  2005-07-22 10:26               ` Alan Bowen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2005-07-22  8:10 UTC (permalink / raw)


Alan Bowen wrote:

how about:

\setupnotedefinition[footnote][indenting={medium,yes}]

(i'll introduce a normal keyword to reinstate the previously set one)

>
> The latest version of ConTeXt (ver: 2005.07.20  fmt: 2005.7.21  int:  
> english  mes: english) seems to have changed \setupindenting in such  
> a way that
>
> % for footnotes with paragraphs
> \let\myfn\footnote
> \def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
> \long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
>   \iffirstargument
>         \myfn[#1]{\setupindenting[big]#2}%
>   \else
>     \myfn{\setupindenting[big]#2}%
>   \fi
> }
> which was suggested by Vít Zyka and used to work perfectly, now does  
> not. All my footnote paragraphs are now set without an indent.
>
> Changing \setupindenting to \indenting does not seem to work (though  
> it does in the body text for normal paragraphing). What am I missing?
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Vit Zyka wrote:
>
>> Try:
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>> \setupindenting[small]
>>
>> \let\footnoteO\footnote
>> \def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
>> \long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
>>   \iffirstargument
>>     \footnoteO[#1]{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>>   \else
>>     \footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>>   \fi
>> }
>> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
>> \starttext
>>   \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
>> \stoptext
>> --------------------------------------
>>
>> cheers
>> vit
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> =======================================================
>> Ing. Vít Zýka, Ph.D.                         TYPOkvítek
>>
>> database publishing              databazove publikovani
>> data maintaining and typesetting in typographic quality
>> priprava dat a jejich sazba v typograficke kvalite
>>
>> tel.: (+420) 777 198 189     www: http://typokvitek.com
>> =======================================================
>>
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>> ntg-context mailing list
>> ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>
>
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* Re: pararaph indent in footnote (again)
  2005-07-22  8:10             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2005-07-22 10:26               ` Alan Bowen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Bowen @ 2005-07-22 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hans—

That does it perfectly. Many thanks, again!

Best, Alan

On Jul 22, 2005, at 4:10 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> how about:
>
> \setupnotedefinition[footnote][indenting={medium,yes}]
>
> (i'll introduce a normal keyword to reinstate the previously set one)
>
>
>>
>> The latest version of ConTeXt (ver: 2005.07.20  fmt: 2005.7.21   
>> int:  english  mes: english) seems to have changed \setupindenting  
>> in such  a way that
>>
>> % for footnotes with paragraphs
>> \let\myfn\footnote
>> \def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
>> \long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
>>   \iffirstargument
>>         \myfn[#1]{\setupindenting[big]#2}%
>>   \else
>>     \myfn{\setupindenting[big]#2}%
>>   \fi
>> }
>> which was suggested by Vít Zyka and used to work perfectly, now  
>> does  not. All my footnote paragraphs are now set without an indent.
>>
>> Changing \setupindenting to \indenting does not seem to work  
>> (though  it does in the body text for normal paragraphing). What  
>> am I missing?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Vit Zyka wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Try:
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> \setupindenting[small]
>>>
>>> \let\footnoteO\footnote
>>> \def\footnote{\dosingleempty\mydofootnote}
>>> \long\def\mydofootnote[#1]#2{%
>>>   \iffirstargument
>>>     \footnoteO[#1]{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>>>   \else
>>>     \footnoteO{\setupindenting[small]#2}%
>>>   \fi
>>> }
>>> \def\SomePars{\dorecurse5{\dorecurse{50}{bla }\par}}
>>> \starttext
>>>   \SomePars bla\footnote{\SomePars}
>>> \stoptext
>>> --------------------------------------
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> vit
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> =======================================================
>>> Ing. Vít Zýka, Ph.D.                         TYPOkvítek
>>>
>>> database publishing              databazove publikovani
>>> data maintaining and typesetting in typographic quality
>>> priprava dat a jejich sazba v typograficke kvalite
>>>
>>> tel.: (+420) 777 198 189     www: http://typokvitek.com
>>> =======================================================
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ntg-context mailing list
>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
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