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Is there a way to get the amount of horizontal space the initial takes so that can be put in manually in front of the next paragraph? On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 06/09/2017 07:05 AM, Martin Oppegaard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is > > laid over the next paragraph. Example: > > > > \starttext > > \placeinitial > > Knuth writes: > > > > \input knuth > > \stoptext > > > > Is there anything to do about this? > > Hi Martin, > > I guess initials make sense only when used inside a paragraph. It is > problematic when you have white space defined. > > Having margin initials is also another approach. You may compare both > with the following sample: > > \setupwhitespace[medium] > \setupinitial[location=margin] > \starttext > \placeinitial > Knuth writes: > > \input knuth > \setupinitial[location=text] > \placeinitial > Knuth writes:\\ > \input knuth > \stoptext > > I hope it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________________ > --f403045ee78cdaeade055269ea10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the suggestions! Is there a way to get the amou= nt of horizontal space the initial takes so that can be put in manually in = front of the next paragraph?

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es= > wrote:
On 06/09/201= 7 07:05 AM, Martin Oppegaard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is
> laid over the next paragraph. Example:
>
> \starttext
> \placeinitial
> Knuth writes:
>
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> Is there anything to do about this?

Hi Martin,

I guess initials make sense only when used inside a paragraph. It is
problematic when you have white space defined.

Having margin initials is also another approach. You may compare both
with the following sample:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \setupwhitespace[medium]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \setupinitial[location=3Dmargin]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \starttext
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \placeinitial
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Knuth writes:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \input knuth
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \setupinitial[location=3Dtext]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \placeinitial
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Knuth writes:\\
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \input knuth
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \stoptext

I hope it helps,

Pablo
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