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From: Atsuhito Kohda <atsu10.kohda@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: feature request
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 14:18:09 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABHwazVDw4-Ca2sV6Q+9_y7idd3-69-CVjdgPRr=eYsneBQWVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5cebd4e-b08d-7d64-465e-e905b2403592@gmail.com>


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Hi Henri,
Thanks for your suggestions, they are very instructive.
However, my request is not a smart way of displaying matrices
but to know why \bmatrix and \vmatrix are not provided
in core part of ConTeXt although \pmatrix is provided already
in math-pln.mkiv

About matrices, I first found commands in your first email in
http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/context-latex-math.pdf
(like \startpmatrix \NC A\NC B\NR \NC C\NC D\NR\stoppmatrix)
and then browsing ma-cb-en.pdf I noticed another command
like \pmatrix{A&B\cr C&D\cr}.
Now by your email, I know a command \pmatrix{A, B; C, D}

One might say ConTeXt is flexible but I've an impression
that ConTeXt is in a state of confusion/disorder.

I think it is better if a standard command is provided
by core ConTeXt or by a module etc.

Or is it ConTeXt way that each user defines his/her own commands
in setup area and uses them in text area?
I'm afraid consistency and/or portability is lost in such scenario.

BTW, I constantly convert Beamer documents into ConTeXt's
simpleslide documents recently and it is very convenient
if I can use \pmatrix{a&b\cr c&d\cr} style because it is similar
to LaTeX documents.

2019年7月3日(水) 15:42 Henri Menke <henrimenke@gmail.com>:

>
>
> On 3/07/19 6:00 PM, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > I've used LaTeX quite a long time but recently I begin to use ConTeXt
> too.
> > So I'm very sorry if the following is well-known issue.
> >
> > I find an example of \pmatrix in p.21 of "ConTeXt Mark IV an excursion"
> > (ma-cb-en.pdf).  And I notice it is defined in
> > /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/mkiv/math-pln.mkiv (in Debian).
> > But it seems \bmatrix, \vmatrix are not defined yet.
> > Is there any reason why they are not defined?
> > Similar commands or environments \begin{bmatrix}...\end{bmatrix},
> > \begin{vmatrix}...\end{vmatrix} are very often used in mathematical
> > LaTeX documents.
> > It is very useful if we can use \bmatrix and \vmatrix in ConTeXt
> > documents, so please add
> > \unexpanded\def\bmatrix#1%
> >   {\left[\matrix{#1}\right]}
> > \unexpanded\def\vmatrix#1%
> >   {\left|\matrix{#1}\right|}
> > in math-pln.mkiv or somewhere.
>
> Ignore my other message, this is even better:
>
> \definemathmatrix
>   [pmatrix]
>   [matrix:parentheses]
>   [simplecommand=pmatrix]
>
> \definemathmatrix
>   [bmatrix]
>   [matrix:brackets]
>   [simplecommand=bmatrix]
>
> \definemathmatrix
>   [vmatrix]
>   [matrix:bars]
>   [simplecommand=vmatrix]
>
> \definemathmatrix
>   [Vmatrix]
>   [left={\left\lVert\mskip\thinmuskip},
>    right={\mskip\thinmuskip\right\rVert},
>    align=middle,
>    simplecommand=Vmatrix]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startformula
>     \startpmatrix
>         \NC A \NC B \NR
>         \NC C \NC D \NR
>     \stoppmatrix
>     \quad
>     \startbmatrix
>         \NC A \NC B \NR
>         \NC C \NC D \NR
>     \stopbmatrix
>     \quad
>     \startvmatrix
>         \NC A \NC B \NR
>         \NC C \NC D \NR
>     \stopvmatrix
>     \quad
>     \startVmatrix
>         \NC A \NC B \NR
>         \NC C \NC D \NR
>     \stopVmatrix
> \stopformula
>
> \startformula
>     \pmatrix{A, B; C, D}
>     \quad
>     \bmatrix{A, B; C, D}
>     \quad
>     \vmatrix{A, B; C, D}
>     \quad
>     \Vmatrix{A, B; C, D}
> \stopformula
>
> \stoptext
>
> >
> > By the way, I think it is critical to set
> > \setupmathematics[ampersand=normal]
> > to use \matrix above but I can't find this setting in ma-cb-en.pdf
> > It is great if this is added in  ma-cb-en.pdf
> >
> >
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-04  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-03  6:00 Atsuhito Kohda
2019-07-03  6:35 ` Henri Menke
2019-07-03  6:42 ` Henri Menke
2019-07-04  5:18   ` Atsuhito Kohda [this message]
2019-07-04  5:48     ` Henri Menke
2019-07-05 23:31       ` Atsuhito Kohda
2019-07-04 15:16     ` Aditya Mahajan
2019-07-04 15:54       ` Alan Braslau
2019-07-05 23:44         ` Atsuhito Kohda
2019-07-05 23:35       ` Atsuhito Kohda
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-11 15:34 Steffen Wolfrum
2011-11-11 15:53 ` Andreas Harder
2011-11-11 15:57   ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-11-11 16:01 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-11-11 18:47 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس  سماوي حامد
2011-11-13 10:55   ` Steffen Wolfrum
2011-11-13 21:33     ` Andreas Schneider
2011-11-14  7:57       ` Steffen Wolfrum
2011-11-14  8:07         ` Hans Hagen
2011-11-14  9:22           ` Steffen Wolfrum
2011-11-14 18:38             ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس  سماوي حامد
2011-11-15 22:03               ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
2011-11-15 22:11                 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-11-15 22:28                 ` Aditya Mahajan
2011-11-15 22:47                   ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
2011-11-14  8:47 ` Aditya Mahajan
2011-11-14 14:03   ` Hans Hagen
2011-11-15  3:35     ` Aditya Mahajan
2011-11-15  5:43       ` Aditya Mahajan
2011-11-15  8:56         ` Hans Hagen
2007-07-05 17:41 Feature request John R. Culleton
2007-07-05 21:37 ` Patrick Gundlach
2007-07-05 22:27   ` John R. Culleton
2007-07-06  8:09     ` Patrick Gundlach
2005-07-27  9:58 Steffen Wolfrum
2005-07-27 22:16 ` Hans Hagen
     [not found] <a06210200bf0958f2bc0f@87.193.3.198>
2005-07-26 16:20 ` Mojca Miklavec
2005-07-26 22:56   ` Hans Hagen
2005-07-27  5:15     ` luigi.scarso
2005-07-26 15:33 Steffen Wolfrum
2005-07-26 22:38 ` Hans Hagen
2005-07-26 15:00 Steffen Wolfrum
2005-07-26 13:32 Steffen Wolfrum
2005-07-26 14:21 ` Hans Hagen
2005-07-26 14:32 ` Hans Hagen

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