* Re: Achieving the style of Jean-Luc Doumont
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@ 2022-05-20 14:40 ` Susanne G. Loeber via ntg-context
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From: Susanne G. Loeber via ntg-context @ 2022-05-20 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Dear list,
>
> Years ago I stumbled upon the work of Jean-Luc Doumont.
He typesets all his documents using TeX, although his modified Version
> called Quantum. The whole idea of his fascinating approach is that the page
> is quantized in 2 dimensions and that all positioning, even graphical
> elements stick to that grid. I'm attaching a link to a presentation by him
> in which he gives some fragments of code that I, unfortunately, have a hard
> time understanding.
>
Thank you for the pdf!
I'm interested in replicating this 2d grid in Context. How would one go
> about enforcing such strict 2d organization? As I get it he does a lot of
> manual tweaking, and his documents are less automated and more hand
> crafted than a typical Context document.I'm specifically interested in
> using this approach for report generation.
It would be wonderful to have, especially for adaptation, personalisation
purposes.
To me data I/O is not an issue since I would use a Python script to
> generate the markup.
>
Even though I am not a programmer, I would like to be of help. For example:
brainstorming or testing ideas.
I hope there are more enthousiasts eager to help. (Thanks Aditya.)
> I know the question is pretty general, but any pointers would be welcome.
> Maybe the first thing useful would be the grid and how to position
> everything in accordance with it. I envisioned this thread more for
> discussion and suggestions than a complete recreation of his ideas. As I
> learn Context and Metapost, I hope I will figure out how to recreate his
> work. Sorry for the blog post :)
>
> Link to files:
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KpYbDlukvSCirKkFvJICOX3wABl_83bW?usp=sharing
>
> Sincerely,
> Stefan
>
Kind regards, Susanne G. Loeber
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* Achieving the style of Jean-Luc Doumont
@ 2022-05-16 9:48 Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context
2022-05-17 3:56 ` Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
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From: Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context @ 2022-05-16 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear list,
Years ago I stumbled upon the work of Jean-Luc Doumont. He typesets all his
documents using TeX, although his modified Version called Quantum. The
whole idea of his fascinating approach is that the page is quantized in 2
dimensions and that all positioning, even graphical elements stick to that
grid. I'm attaching a link to a presentation by him in which he gives some
fragments of code that I, unfortunately, have a hard time understanding.
I'm interested in replicating this 2d grid in Context. How would one go
about enforcing such strict 2d organization? As I get it he does a lot of
manual tweaking, and his documents are less automated and more hand crafted
than a typical Context document. I'm specifically interested in using this
approach for report generation. To me data I/O is not an issue since I
would use a Python script to generate the markup.
I know the question is pretty general, but any pointers would be welcome.
Maybe the first thing useful would be the grid and how to position
everything in accordance with it. I envisioned this thread more for
discussion and suggestions than a complete recreation of his ideas. As I
learn Context and Metapost, I hope I will figure out how to recreate his
work. Sorry for the blog post :)
Link to files:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KpYbDlukvSCirKkFvJICOX3wABl_83bW?usp=sharing
Sincerely,
Stefan
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* Re: Achieving the style of Jean-Luc Doumont
2022-05-16 9:48 Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context
@ 2022-05-17 3:56 ` Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
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From: Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context @ 2022-05-17 3:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context; +Cc: Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 16 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> Years ago I stumbled upon the work of Jean-Luc Doumont. He typesets all his
> documents using TeX, although his modified Version called Quantum.
His documents are really beautifully typeset. In the book, "Theorems, Maps, and Trees" all paragraphs are typeset as complete rectangles! See a sample here:
https://www.principiae.be/book/pdfs/TM&Th-samplepages.pdf
> The whole idea of his fascinating approach is that the page is quantized in 2
> dimensions and that all positioning, even graphical elements stick to that
> grid.
ConTeXt already implements grid snapping in the vertical dimension. For "grid snapping" in the horizontal direction, you need to ensure that all \hskip's are multiple of the grid size.
> I'm specifically interested in using this approach for report generation. To
> me data I/O is not an issue since I would use a Python script to generate the
> markup.
You can use layers to position things anywhere on a page. The keys `lines=..., columns=...` work almost like a grid.
See the details manual for examples of grid snapping and layers.
Aditya
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