From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83614 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Gushee Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Path problems w/ MkIV on Arch Linux Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:59:40 -0600 Message-ID: References: <51F9827D.30501@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375329624 15171 80.91.229.3 (1 Aug 2013 04:00:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 04:00:24 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Aug 01 06:00:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4k3r-000876-UI for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:00:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F32101EB; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YemAp9vH5lBn; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2C4101E8; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49765101E8 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id u7NSsskRmDRW for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F3B101E4 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-oa0-x22a.google.com (mail-oa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22a]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r713xfTA008255 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:59:42 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so3332615oag.15 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:59:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BAGrWiaukfg9gPjlen9TR7LIJaigYW5rdZhgiDDEWCA=; b=nwNufx3L2rI6KC7u83V4m6MAZcUxhBEQW06IUVfUkigLeF0820Pr2UaBJOeCz8JNjZ BAuVHQwz5fwUb6jve1e8QJSfCCbBTnD3eVcNGnU8jePaE2bDWJxbqjRk43dto3cV8Hcu 1aN1WWx+xAKiHjvMQ8htKCcxffP584bjLmBVAM7UMSH0bM40lg656eLH/t9cY/Jd7Zb+ QkZeCYQ1HddD1+Q/8zVVIhfHRSbjgb3Vh/Q2cV0Z/NHcIuNezKIjuwt/ko0ibENoa5yN 2tx/1rhV0PVKpyBaYZejGfHVI56UnJv0dtCkRFVWwW8WLwuJ1J0npIVuef82fazyibtm DDMA== X-Received: by 10.50.101.16 with SMTP id fc16mr1003529igb.49.1375329580679; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.42.144.74 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:59:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F9827D.30501@wxs.nl> X-Google-Sender-Auth: yGteB4KOKG2R77IPL6DV00J1s_M X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22a; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01K7fXF0W - e19316244431 - 20130801 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83614 Archived-At: Thanks, Hans ... On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/31/2013 10:51 PM, Matt Gushee wrote: >> code, so unless there are serious bugs, I want to use the version >> included with TexLive. At any rate, that's what I currently have and >> am trying to use. But I am running into issues with files not being >> found, e.g.: > > as a start you could try the distribution from the garden; at least it's a > good way to figure out if there is something fishy with your system Okay, I've installed that, and it works fine ... though I had a small glitch along the way that gives me an idea about what the problem may be with the TeXLive version. More about that below. > in the reported 'tree' files in the cache you can check if files like > context.mkiv are present They weren't. > mtxrun --variables > mtxrun --expansions Actually, I had already tried that, but I didn't fully understand the output. Here's an example: resolvers | lists | LUAINPUTS resolvers | lists | env: unset resolvers | lists | var: .;$TEXINPUTS;$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua// resolvers | lists | exp: .;.;{home:texmf,!!selfautoparent:texmf-project,!!selfautoparent:texmf-fonts,!!/usr{/local}/share/texmf,!!selfautoparent:texmf-context,!!selfautoparent:texmf-linux,!!selfautoparent:texmf-dist,!!selfautoparent:texmf-dist}/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//;{home:texmf,!!selfautoparent:texmf-project,!!selfautoparent:texmf-fonts,!!/usr{/local}/share/texmf,!!selfautoparent:texmf-context,!!selfautoparent:texmf-linux,!!selfautoparent:texmf-dist,!!selfautoparent:texmf-dist}/scripts/context/lua// resolvers | lists | res: .;.;{/home/matt/texmf,!!./texmf-project,!!./texmf-fonts,!!/usr{/local}/share/texmf,!!./texmf-context,!!./texmf-linux,!!./texmf-dist,!!./texmf-dist}/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//;{/home/matt/texmf,!!./texmf-project,!!./texmf-fonts,!!/usr{/local}/share/texmf,!!./texmf-context,!!./texmf-linux,!!./texmf-dist,!!./texmf-dist}/scripts/context/lua/ Are the 'selfautoparent' references supposed to be resolved to specific paths? If so, it certainly appears something was wrong here. > so no file database is present or the database has not all files It was the latter, I suspect due to incorrect path settings in the config file. > does arch-linux use stock texlive or do they adapt it There are a few, seemingly minor tweaks. There are three patches, all for luatex: poppler-0.20.patch fix-fontforge-encoding.patch luatex-r4449-radical-rule-thickness.patch However, these all seem to deal with small graphics/fonts issues and have no apparent relationship to finding files. There is also a customized texmf.cnf, but NOT a customized texmfcnf.lua. I think that's significant. I said above that I ran into a minor problem when I installed the Contextgarden package. What happened was that I saw two ../bin directories: /opt/context/bin and /opt/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin . At first I thought /opt/context/bin was meant to be used, so I added both directories to my PATH [/opt/context/bin was first]. But that produced errors. Then I removed /opt/context/bin from PATH, and everything was fine. So I think I see what's going on: since many of the path settings in texmfcnf.lua use 'selfauto*' variables, and correct resolution of those depends on where the executables are located. So I suspect that the default config file that comes with ConTeXt in TeXLive assumes that the executables are ... I'm not sure where, but somewhere other than /usr/bin . I could probably fix that, but it would take me a while to figure out the correct values. Anyway, at this point I'm seriously thinking about just forgetting TeXLive and using the standalone ConTeXt package. I doubt I'll be using any other TeX packages in the near future, and I'd rather spend time creating documents than tinkering with config files. Is there anything in TeXLive that's particularly useful with ConTeXt, that is not included in the ConTeXt package? Anyway, many thanks for your prompt attention! -- Matt Gushee ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________