\blank[] doesn't work when nothing precedes it

\blank[] doesn't work when nothing precedes it

[Sylvain Hubert]

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Dear List,

I'm trying to put the document title at around .25\paperheight by inserting
a \blank:

    \setuplayout[topspace=0cm, header=0cm, height=\paperheight]
    \starttext \blank[.25\paperheight] foo \stoptext

But the "foo" still appears at the very top.

Does anyone know why it behaves like that, or whether there is a more
authentic way to put the first word at .25\paperwidth than inserting a tiny
invisible space before the \blank?

Thanks!

Best,
Sylvain

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Re: \blank[] doesn't work when nothing precedes it

[Tomas Hala]

Hi Sylvain,

on my computer (TL2020) I am not able to compile \blank with any command
defining the dimension (2\paperheight, 0.25\paperheight, .25\paperheight).
I do not know why...

But if I use another dimension, eg. 5*big or 20cc, it works with \dontleavehmode:

\starttext 
\dontleavehmode
\blank[5*big] 
%\blank[20cc]
foo 
\stoptext

Maybe it will help you.

The best,

Tomáš


Thu, Nov 05, 2020 ve 01:26:02PM +0100 Sylvain Hubert napsal(a):
#    Dear List,
#    I'm trying to put the document title at around .25\paperheight by
#    inserting a \blank:
#        \setuplayout[topspace=0cm, header=0cm, height=\paperheight]
#        \starttext \blank[.25\paperheight] foo \stoptext
#    But the "foo" still appears at the very top.
#    Does anyone know why it behaves like that, or whether there is a more
#    authentic way to put the first word at .25\paperwidth than inserting a
#    tiny invisible space before the \blank?
#    Thanks!
#    Best,
#    Sylvain

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Re: \blank[] doesn't work when nothing precedes it

[mf]

Il 05/11/20 13:26, Sylvain Hubert ha scritto:
> Dear List,
> 
> I'm trying to put the document title at around .25\paperheight by 
> inserting a \blank:
> 
>      \setuplayout[topspace=0cm, header=0cm, height=\paperheight]
>      \starttext \blank[.25\paperheight] foo \stoptext
> 

\blank[.25\paperheight,force]

A blank at the top of a page is ignored, because usually you use a blank 
as a separator, that is useless at the top of a page, because the page 
break is enough to separate two texts.

Sometimes you need a blank on top anyway, i.e. at the start of a chapter.
In that case use "force".

Massi
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Re: \blank[] doesn't work when nothing precedes it

[Sylvain Hubert]

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Hi Thomas,

Thanks for sharing the trick, it did help me!

Sylvain

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 13:55, Tomas Hala <tomas.hala@mendelu.cz> wrote:

> Hi Sylvain,
>
> on my computer (TL2020) I am not able to compile \blank with any command
> defining the dimension (2\paperheight, 0.25\paperheight, .25\paperheight).
> I do not know why...
>
> But if I use another dimension, eg. 5*big or 20cc, it works with
> \dontleavehmode:
>
> \starttext
> \dontleavehmode
> \blank[5*big]
> %\blank[20cc]
> foo
> \stoptext
>
> Maybe it will help you.
>
> The best,
>
> Tomáš
>
>
> Thu, Nov 05, 2020 ve 01:26:02PM +0100 Sylvain Hubert napsal(a):
> #    Dear List,
> #    I'm trying to put the document title at around .25\paperheight by
> #    inserting a \blank:
> #        \setuplayout[topspace=0cm, header=0cm, height=\paperheight]
> #        \starttext \blank[.25\paperheight] foo \stoptext
> #    But the "foo" still appears at the very top.
> #    Does anyone know why it behaves like that, or whether there is a more
> #    authentic way to put the first word at .25\paperwidth than inserting a
> #    tiny invisible space before the \blank?
> #    Thanks!
> #    Best,
> #    Sylvain
>
> #
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> # If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to the Wiki!
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Re: \blank[] doesn't work when nothing precedes it

[Sylvain Hubert]

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On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 14:21, mf <massifr@fastwebnet.it> wrote:

> \blank[.25\paperheight,force]
>
> A blank at the top of a page is ignored, because usually you use a blank
> as a separator, that is useless at the top of a page, because the page
> break is enough to separate two texts.
>
> Sometimes you need a blank on top anyway, i.e. at the start of a chapter.
> In that case use "force".
>

Thanks Massi, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Sylvain

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