From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85180 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francisco Gracia Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Chapter endings Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:13 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0066035452==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384096036 20535 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2013 15:07:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:07:16 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Nov 10 16:07:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VfWbi-0002Tt-L6 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC51D1021B; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XzjhwOk9APC7; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1AF101F5; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6687F101F5 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iVTUJyqkCP6j for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (filter1-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6103101E5 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) by filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id rAAF7Etk009763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:07:15 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp4so1289627obc.22 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 07:07:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=07Kops1W9ZMJbT/ZaItFug7LHE2Ln9ZokQQ849bUqtw=; b=U92ZTTj9WPyZ+ueYMwo6wIQvBnU7JQRh1H/LoRWdjlrGVtHZC74u07BI6YDort9q4v 4Ou3+mAR+e6oiwxGAaEGnOalqh+SAJFMZiiIz9hQyA7OdiHaPcQVRd62JUPWyU4xyN0/ a0zICB4yt5JKHik8gGL9Grp6/Ygbdf6pS5K8+GjxHool1QNz71Yyt+s090NzDWA3PzYP ymPDc4Y7JA61dPNpSQ9wbotY8bDVdVfSfkyqtuf62AXatquVcA2nNEYH3v3HZ0N0i2If hqWCThWOJFVqWwM7ctlZr65A76I1lyJk6Cc7/9H/ESCWb8UkePZk+QJv/uwKxzN+vX9Q OanA== X-Received: by 10.182.213.97 with SMTP id nr1mr1566752obc.48.1384096033625; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 07:07:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.76.6.233 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 07:07:13 -0800 (PST) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07KLP7fOJ - 1bb2be2af6ae - 20131110 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85180 Archived-At: --===============0066035452== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c20afc6b5e5e04ead3f827 --001a11c20afc6b5e5e04ead3f827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is a disclaimer to my former message about this subject. I continued considering the solution to the problem of using *fleurons* in a document via the suggested *\leaders* command and it turned out to be a dead end for the following reasons: 1) it acts wrongly if the page in which the *fleuron* is to appear has a lot of blank space availabe, as the following test code demonstrates: \setuplayout[lines=30] \def\Fleuron {\par \leaders\vbox to \lineheight{\midaligned{Finis\\coronat\\opus}}\vfil} \starttext \dorecurse{32}{Line \recurselevel\par} \Fleuron \stoptext where the intended *fleuron* appears superposed several times instead of the only one desired; 2) the use of such an instruction is touchy and not dependable. As I have experienced, things work satisfactorily or not according to the degree of nesting of the command *\fleuron* in the whole launching command and possibly according to many other unnoticed factors; 3) the suggested formulation does not allow enough control for the placement of the *fleuron* in the final document. In the end all this seems reasonable: the straigth use of the *\leaders* command is almost the contrary of the one demanded for the present functionality. The effect of the (obscure in more than one sense) *Tex* command *\leaders* is to fill a (rather implicitly defined) surface with repeated copies of a certain motive. The visibility or not of the result according to the surrounding text or space in the page has to be considered therefore as a purely accidental (and noxious) side effect. The content typesett via *\leaders* is not supposed in any way to disappear when following lines are added. I conclude that the only lawful use of *\leaders* in the true context of *fleurons* would be for the generation of certain repetitive motives (for instance a kind of small checkered board), but this is only a hint; I have not explored this possibility. Fortunately I have been able to advance in another direction and to get what seems to me a consistent solution to the original problem. I open the new thread *Using *fleurons** for explaining it more fully. Regards Francisco --001a11c20afc6b5e5e04ead3f827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is a disclaimer to my former message about this subje= ct.

I continued considering the solution to the problem of using *fl= eurons* in a document via the suggested *\leaders* command and it turned ou= t to be a dead end for the following reasons:

=A0=A0=A0 1) it acts wrongly if the page in which the *fleuron* is to a= ppear has a lot of blank space availabe, as the following test code demonst= rates:

\setuplayout[lines=3D30]

\def\Fleuron
{\par
\lea= ders\vbox to \lineheight{\midaligned{Finis\\coronat\\opus}}\vfil}=A0=A0=A0 = \starttext

\dorecurse{32}{Line \recurselevel\par}

\Fleuron

\stoptext=

where the intended *fleuron* appears superposed several times inste= ad of the only one desired;

=A0=A0=A0 2) the use of such an instruct= ion is touchy and not dependable. As I have experienced, things work satisf= actorily or not according to the degree of nesting of the command *\fleuron= * in the whole launching command and possibly according to many other unnot= iced factors;

=A0=A0=A0 3) the suggested formulation does not allow enough control fo= r the placement of the *fleuron* in the final document.

In the end a= ll this seems reasonable: the straigth use of the *\leaders* command=A0 is = almost the contrary of the one demanded for the present functionality. The = effect of the (obscure in more than one sense) *Tex* command *\leaders* is = to fill a (rather implicitly defined) surface with repeated copies of a cer= tain motive. The visibility or not of the result according to the surroundi= ng text or space in the page has to be considered therefore as a purely acc= idental (and noxious) side effect. The content typesett via *\leaders* is n= ot supposed in any way to disappear when following lines are added.

I conclude that the only lawful use of *\leaders* in the true context o= f *fleurons* would be for the generation of certain repetitive motives (for= instance a kind of small checkered board), but this is only a hint; I have= not explored this possibility.

Fortunately I have been able to advance in another direction and to get= what seems to me a consistent solution to the original problem. I open the= new thread *Using *fleurons** for explaining it more fully.

Regards=

Francisco

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