From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/99659 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Wim Neimeijer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Typefile with Chinese, Korean or Japanase text Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:01:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5A27CDBF.9010304@gmail.com> <6b82595b-8266-4e2f-a210-4706a3ee8fe5@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5884542933440073854==" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512594190 4784 195.159.176.226 (6 Dec 2017 21:03:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 21:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Hans Hagen Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Dec 06 22:03:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMgqP-00019a-NE for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:03:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5090D8A0166; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:02:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JKxVrsxpjqlp; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:02:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269E68A0112; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:02:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7488A00CF for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:02:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TKbostDjswl6 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:02:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-qt0-f172.google.com (mail-qt0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A020D8A00CD for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 22:02:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by mail-qt0-f172.google.com with SMTP id g10so12365225qtj.12 for ; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:02:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1gXXhGEyhp7dB1wZC5beCq1k31cgH7vwQuizE1RwwSc=; b=T/Fgo1jUawoQ7dja/TatB+uJCxmON1zobayA70pULwuPLjTI7GPRWZqRJTkqoMur27 N4LG6ZidfDqzqMAWCoFuTMGUwU4lvwtg29xD95MTYdyM3TAtKzPwj5/GWLkw1nCX4o/j 2kkZIMuyMInnaZWi8s7S4xIlo+94FI5xaYOOILDwtA3yJn5j2N4c7bJe5fnNBsDg5gmY gqFLP2R90TyvhCABGzwclzEMcaP6sls/lrxc9q9TuqFurBi5cbG20CUlO8mkufjeGTYl aDS6Rdf6tY3NcCfVMZFcOlJG7FQYlJyxMqhLtame3MDo5cMxHRM60toX0UoalR7QrE52 6sVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1gXXhGEyhp7dB1wZC5beCq1k31cgH7vwQuizE1RwwSc=; b=nUqoGHxFD/Py7CJIqXSLX0TnPD1L7q+citu2MdNagSnOdzCtbtG6xKYGdP4PEEeTDZ DReAf6ZowD1ah3yQX1TqYBbwqq9tFaELNAJoXEcWKLFqJry7aq1+1yAydmHXpkjnsc3O p9Fh5oP9wWC/5L3uvnKWFbiJ1CDFC7ZKLl9URjd4wWeWgfqM+VYiRpGSgPXLNoZ/T0va qFlUsYy6H4mwq19qV0jqpZIpI8rlptDLoae5tttGDJe78JOGs4pP1pjfXAxjYZ+xCBVn NQDpgqonK9vwuHubqKT0VdiBQy803CLyq6XnMgWGop10rOma4mRh3rJ8RPp/QYseygOV 2joA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKt8wYk2RDuYevag7WlTqxCmKJ+cnJeuf5DGu1QiN1KoylRViSr 4hpUsmyjSTEmXQV49gLdX+Ww5tMTMj/DhPzo14s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMY1DO/T6CygjuRLRoz2AzY/VjsAGG4rvbif6VFjdYOdDojGnBDWe3GUJT8cqHL87prN1IN0L6bsajbYyIqTBIY= X-Received: by 10.55.20.199 with SMTP id 68mr27446141qku.4.1512594155192; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:02:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.140.41.177 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:01:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6b82595b-8266-4e2f-a210-4706a3ee8fe5@wxs.nl> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:99659 Archived-At: --===============5884542933440073854== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1144cd384f4562055fb2455a" --001a1144cd384f4562055fb2455a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for all your input and help, but as said before I don't have the time to upgrade and than to discover existing things don't work resulting in a complete new thread to debug these existing things and/or fix with a new beta installation. But that is perhaps not my biggest concern with all these beta releases, ConText is great and for the most part easy to use, I am more worried that my existing ConText environment (setup) becomes broken, and/or resulting in complete different PDF output. I have no way of knowing, apart from visually inspecting a lot of pages of PDF. I thought including some code examples via \typefile (with a bit of text in either Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese or Korean) could be achieved with a simple local font switch, or setting a regime or via \setuptyping but not on a global level with \definefontsynonym, definefontfallback etc. My fix is to change the examples a bit and continue. Again thanks for the help On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 12/6/2017 7:24 PM, Wim Neimeijer wrote: > >> I disagree, a version from 2016 is not very old. I have a lot of >> documents using a ConText setup which works with this version >> of luatex and context. >> >> Last week I tried to use the latest beta with my documents and the beta >> was unable to run my documents. >> As it seems it is not backward compatible and I have no time at the >> moment to debug or test. >> > hm, normally updates are backwar dcompatible (apart from very beta > features) ... what fails? > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > --001a1144cd384f4562055fb2455a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for all your input and help, but as said before I d= on't have the time to upgrade and than to discover existing things don&= #39;t work
resulting in a complete new thread to debug these existing t= hings and/or fix with a new beta installation.=C2=A0

But that is perhaps not my biggest concern with all these beta releases,= =C2=A0
ConText is great and for the most part easy to use, I am m= ore worried that
my existing ConText environment (setup) becomes = broken, and/or resulting in complete different PDF output.
I have= no way of knowing, apart from visually inspecting a lot of pages of PDF.

I thought including some code examples via \typefil= e (with a bit of text in either Cyrillic, Chinese, Japanese or Korean)
<= /div>
could be achieved with a simple local font switch, or setting a r= egime or via \setuptyping but not on a global level
with \definef= ontsynonym,=C2=A0definefontfallback etc.=C2=A0

My = fix is to change the examples a bit and continue.=C2=A0
Again tha= nks for the help





On W= ed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
On 12/6/2017 7:24 PM, Wim = Neimeijer wrote:
I disagree, a version from 2016 is not very old. I have a lot of documents = using a ConText setup which works with this version
of luatex and context.

Last week I tried to use the latest beta with my documents and the beta was= unable to run my documents.
As it seems it is not backward compatible and I have no time at the moment = to debug or test.
 hm, normally updates are backwar dcompatible (apart from very beta features= ) ... what fails?



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