* defineindenting
@ 2012-10-26 11:33 Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 11:53 ` defineindenting Sietse Brouwer
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From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2012-10-26 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello list,
I feel a bit "out of context" not following the list closely for some
time so maybe this has been solved already. I cannot get
defineindenting to work. Example attached.
Best
Piotr
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 11:33 defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
@ 2012-10-26 11:53 ` Sietse Brouwer
2012-10-26 12:04 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
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From: Sietse Brouwer @ 2012-10-26 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello Piotr,
> I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
To input example text, use
\input knuth
not
\knuth .
After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something like
'. . . :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
another bug. I have attached my output.
\defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
\starttext
\myindenting
\input knuth
\stoptext
Kind regards,
Sietse
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 11:53 ` defineindenting Sietse Brouwer
@ 2012-10-26 12:04 ` Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 12:11 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 16:05 ` defineindenting Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2012-10-26 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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O yes, silly mistake! Anyway I'm still getting
-------------------------------------------------------------
! Undefined control sequence.
system > tex > error on line 1 in file test-indentations.tex:
Undefined control sequence ...
1 >> \defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
-------------------------------------------------------------
and no indenting at all when used with mkIV which is what I'd like to
use (mkII is out of question).
2012/10/26 Sietse Brouwer <sbbrouwer@gmail.com>:
> Hello Piotr,
>
>> I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
>
>
> To input example text, use
> \input knuth
> not
> \knuth .
>
> After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something like
> '. . . :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
> MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
> another bug. I have attached my output.
>
> \defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
> \starttext
>
> \myindenting
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Kind regards,
> Sietse
>
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 11:53 ` defineindenting Sietse Brouwer
2012-10-26 12:04 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
@ 2012-10-26 12:11 ` Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 12:23 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 16:05 ` defineindenting Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2012-10-26 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
2012-10-26 Sietse Brouwer:
> Hello Piotr,
>
> > I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
>
>
> To input example text, use
> \input knuth
> not
> \knuth .
>
> After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something like
> '. . . :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
> MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
> another bug.
An MkIV 2011.11.29 23:11 produces the same result as MkII, the wiki
however says "Mkii only". It seems that this command was removed or
changed in 2012.01.11 10:58. I never used it myself.
Marco
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 12:11 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
@ 2012-10-26 12:23 ` Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 13:04 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
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From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2012-10-26 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
the recent version?
2012/10/26 Marco Patzer <homerow@lavabit.com>:
> 2012-10-26 Sietse Brouwer:
>
>> Hello Piotr,
>>
>> > I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
>>
>>
>> To input example text, use
>> \input knuth
>> not
>> \knuth .
>>
>> After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something like
>> '. . . :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
>> MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
>> another bug.
>
> An MkIV 2011.11.29 23:11 produces the same result as MkII, the wiki
> however says "Mkii only". It seems that this command was removed or
> changed in 2012.01.11 10:58. I never used it myself.
>
>
> Marco
>
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 12:23 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
@ 2012-10-26 13:04 ` Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 13:28 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2012-10-26 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:
> Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
> the recent version?
I don't know what \defineindenting is supposed to do. I can hardly
believe that the dots in the output are intended. What about this:
\definedelimitedtext
[indenting]
[leftmargin=4cm, rightmargin=]
\starttext
\startindenting
\input knuth
\stopindenting
\stoptext
Marco
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 13:04 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
@ 2012-10-26 13:28 ` Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 13:30 ` defineindenting Sietse Brouwer
2012-10-26 13:48 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
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From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2012-10-26 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to "define a collection of
indenting settings". I used it to indent more then in the case of
other paragraphs the first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.
Best
Piotr
2012/10/26 Marco Patzer <homerow@lavabit.com>:
> 2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:
>
>> Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
>> the recent version?
>
> I don't know what \defineindenting is supposed to do. I can hardly
> believe that the dots in the output are intended. What about this:
>
> \definedelimitedtext
> [indenting]
> [leftmargin=4cm, rightmargin=]
>
> \starttext
> \startindenting
> \input knuth
> \stopindenting
> \stoptext
>
>
> Marco
>
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 13:28 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
@ 2012-10-26 13:30 ` Sietse Brouwer
2012-10-26 13:48 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
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From: Sietse Brouwer @ 2012-10-26 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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NB: whatever is on the wiki page on that article was added by me just
now, and represents a best guess only. I think it's correct, based on
what I saw it do when I tried your mkii example, but a better
description is welcome.
--Sietse
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak <kopszak@gmail.com> wrote:
> Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to "define a collection of
> indenting settings". I used it to indent more then in the case of
> other paragraphs the first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
> so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.
>
> Best
>
> Piotr
> 2012/10/26 Marco Patzer <homerow@lavabit.com>:
>> 2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:
>>
>>> Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
>>> the recent version?
>>
>> I don't know what \defineindenting is supposed to do. I can hardly
>> believe that the dots in the output are intended. What about this:
>>
>> \definedelimitedtext
>> [indenting]
>> [leftmargin=4cm, rightmargin=]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \startindenting
>> \input knuth
>> \stopindenting
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> Marco
>>
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>
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 13:28 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 13:30 ` defineindenting Sietse Brouwer
@ 2012-10-26 13:48 ` Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 14:02 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2012-10-26 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:
> Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to "define a collection of
> indenting settings". I used it to indent more then in the case of
> other paragraphs the first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
> so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.
To indent the first line you can use
\setupindenting [yes, 2cm]
That, however, is not configurable. And frankly I've never seen
varying paragraph indentations in a document. If you really need it
you can build a wrapper around this.
\def\defineindenting
{\dodoubleempty\dodefineindenting}
\def\dodefineindenting [#1][#2]
{\setvalue{#1}{\setupindenting[yes, #2]}}
\defineindenting [first] [2cm]
\defineindenting [second] [3cm]
\starttext
\first
\input knuth
\second
\input knuth
\stoptext
Marco
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 13:48 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
@ 2012-10-26 14:02 ` Piotr Kopszak
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From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2012-10-26 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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That did the trick. Yes, I know it's weird. Technology makes strange
things happen sometimes ;)
Thanks!
Piotr
2012/10/26 Marco Patzer <homerow@lavabit.com>:
> 2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:
>
>> Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to "define a collection of
>> indenting settings". I used it to indent more then in the case of
>> other paragraphs the first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
>> so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.
>
> To indent the first line you can use
>
> \setupindenting [yes, 2cm]
>
> That, however, is not configurable. And frankly I've never seen
> varying paragraph indentations in a document. If you really need it
> you can build a wrapper around this.
>
>
> \def\defineindenting
> {\dodoubleempty\dodefineindenting}
>
> \def\dodefineindenting [#1][#2]
> {\setvalue{#1}{\setupindenting[yes, #2]}}
>
> \defineindenting [first] [2cm]
> \defineindenting [second] [3cm]
>
> \starttext
> \first
> \input knuth
>
> \second
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
>
> Marco
>
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* Re: defineindenting
2012-10-26 11:53 ` defineindenting Sietse Brouwer
2012-10-26 12:04 ` defineindenting Piotr Kopszak
2012-10-26 12:11 ` defineindenting Marco Patzer
@ 2012-10-26 16:05 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-10-26 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 26.10.2012 um 13:53 schrieb Sietse Brouwer <sbbrouwer@gmail.com>:
> Hello Piotr,
>
>> I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
>
>
> To input example text, use
> \input knuth
> not
> \knuth .
>
> After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something like
> '. . . :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
> MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
> another bug. I have attached my output.
>
> \defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
> \starttext
>
> \myindenting
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
The output looks different when you put the text in the document.
% engine=pdftex
\defineindenting
[test]
[text=Test]
\starttext
\test The Earth, as a habitat for animal life, is in old age and
has a fatal illness. Several, in fact. It would be happening
whether humans had ever evolved or not. But our presence is
like the effect of an old|-|age patient who smokes many packs
of cigarettes per day |=| and we humans are the cigarettes.
\subtest The Earth, as a habitat for animal life, is in old age and
has a fatal illness. Several, in fact. It would be happening
whether humans had ever evolved or not. But our presence is
like the effect of an old|-|age patient who smokes many packs
of cigarettes per day |=| and we humans are the cigarettes.
\stoptext
As you can see from the output it’s a very simple description
command with very few options. The dots in the output for your
example os the default value for the text key.
Wolfgang
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