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From: Thomas Widmann <thomas@complexli.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Adjusting column width dynamically to get rid of orphans and widows
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 10:31:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADf_Gt2vG9udCZK7rLTSZeyCV+tpWy8w_ozM9G0Bm7MMqK5TkA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545bb90c-abd6-cf4a-07cf-7db8450db085@wxs.nl>

On 25 June 2017 at 12:16, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 6/24/2017 4:48 PM, Thomas Widmann wrote:
>>
>> Lots of published dictionaries are full of orphans and widows because
>> they're so hard to avoid without a lot of manual intervention, which
>> is why I'm keen to explore any novel ways to avoid them.
>>
>> However, all ways I can think of requires typesetting the entries in
>> the last column multiple times, i.e.:
>>
>> repeat
>>    adjust parameters (column width, looseness, ...)
>>    typeset column
>> until the column doesn't generate orphan/widow
>>
>> Is this possible with ConTeXt/LuaTeX?
>
> maybe be more explicit with very large penalties helps
>
> \startdocument
>
> \showmakeup[penalty]
>
> [...]
>
> \stopdocument

Thanks, Hans, that's a very instructive bit of code, and I'm sure it
will be useful from time to time.  However, it doesn't really answer
my question: Is there a way in ConTeXt/LuaTeX to typeset a column
repeatedly until it fulfils certain criteria (such as not generating
an orphan or a widow)?

Perhaps it would be easier if I didn't think of it as a column, but
simply as a box?  The only problem I can see with that is that it
makes it awkward to handle the fact that long entries will often need
to run into the next column.

Thomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20  8:22 Thomas Widmann
2017-06-20  9:41 ` Henri Menke
2017-06-20  9:53   ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-20 19:33     ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-23 13:21       ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-23 16:52         ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-24  0:19           ` Henri Menke
2017-06-24 14:48             ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-25 11:16               ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-26  9:31                 ` Thomas Widmann [this message]
2017-06-28  9:16                   ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-28 11:04                     ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-28 11:20                       ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-28 11:57                         ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-28 12:49                           ` Thomas Widmann
2017-07-03 15:50                             ` Thomas Widmann

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