From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/89586 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Szepieniec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: setting margins in makeup Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:03:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5495FE46.7020006@gmx.es> <5496A8AA.7070103@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0079853623==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419192676 23553 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 20:11:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 20:11:16 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Dec 21 21:11:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2mqJ-0007p7-Sq for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:11:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C411022B for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:11:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id a1q-kD1HzC07 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:11:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08CF1044A for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:05:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CDB1021B for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:05:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id aSQIKTCusOzR for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:05:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC681021D for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:03:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id sBLK3l8A022902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:03:48 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id x12so2523075qac.2 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=shWCtA38U/hbQMbB9CZ1JozbYA+1NgqkzvACjSoc7ic=; b=K9YS9b9dcXMKPygeaP3lFgymb/oQXrlJKhR/9UR9TJjFmO3B28nnwAbSQ47hU3rVIR 3CLPrOs/u1OGiFB05O99gayEFqkOhUBuiyg52HDR6WlQqep8JYeO0FpT1fA23nJrcNCe Kp6vDxSnaMN0gyce2zDBvqfV/0RDJ8HQWsozqLm9HRqmqFlzsTqVRYT5wTaBQtRk+e6i CB7UeKfU9Q++IGiqxyX+a0psR8p4gD5IxO/ifx85ykTJwT+F0MyT9JIMx5gjTSNXYxI5 k/7L2xhEQN6sz4Ii1PvYvcf1y1Ch3pofZhru9MaR62qr8unX09ddERQmFzYHeRFmSZJU PL9A== X-Received: by 10.140.96.195 with SMTP id k61mr29046574qge.104.1419192227003; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.229.203.67 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:03:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5496A8AA.7070103@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03Nuk3Mvq - 67781fa463a2 - 20141221 (trained as not-spam) Received-SPF: pass (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net: domain of mszepien@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b as permitted sender) receiver=filter3-ams.mf.surf.net; client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b; envelope-from=; helo=mail-qa0-x22b.google.com; identity=mailfrom X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:89586 Archived-At: --===============0079853623== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ace068f0336050abf7066 --001a113ace068f0336050abf7066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 12/20/2014 11:55 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > >> On 12/19/2014 04:38 PM, Mark Szepieniec wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> Incidentally, what threw me off was the phrasing in the manual: >>> >>> 4.19 >>> Makeup >>> A document may have a titlepage, a colofon and some pages that are >>> not directly related to the main part of the document. Mostly these >>> pages are not numbered and can do without headers and footers. >>> Because their layout needs extra attention we prefer the word makeup >>> for defining their specific layout. >>> >>> Since my makeup pages indeed don't have page numbers, I presumed they >>> wouldn't have headers either. I may have read too much into that, but >>> perhaps that passage can be improved? >>> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> makeups don=E2=80=99t have either headers or footers, but have the docum= ent >> layout unless otherwise specified. >> >> You are right: makeups don=E2=80=99t have header or footer /texts/, alth= ough >> they don=E2=80=99t have the space for headers and footers removed. >> > > they have them but their state is empty (headerstate etc parameters) > > Hans > Thanks for the clarification both of you, that was exactly what I was getting wrong. 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On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>= wrote:
On 12/20/2014 11:55 = PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
On 12/19/2014 04:38 PM, Mark Szepieniec wrote:
[...]
Incidentally, what threw me off was the phrasing in the manual:

4.19
Makeup
A document may have a titlepage, a colofon and some pages that are
not directly related to the main part of the document. Mostly these
pages are not numbered and can do without headers and footers.
Because their layout needs extra attention we prefer the word makeup
for defining their specific layout.

Since my makeup pages indeed don't have page numbers, I presumed they wouldn't have headers either. I may have read too much into that, but perhaps that passage can be improved?

Hi Mark,

makeups don=E2=80=99t have either headers or footers, but have the document=
layout unless otherwise specified.

You are right: makeups don=E2=80=99t have header or footer /texts/, althoug= h
they don=E2=80=99t have the space for headers and footers removed.

 they have them but their state is empty (headerstate etc parameters)

Hans

Thanks for the clarification both = of you, that was exactly what I was getting wrong.

Best,

Mark=C2=A0

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