Re: Proposal: making [[article]] and [[Article]] equivalent on the wiki

[Sietse Brouwer <sbbrouwer@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> did someone, by any chance, already make that change?

No, it hasn't happened yet. What makes you ask?

The only change so far is that I moved all lowercased articles to the
Title-cased place. I did this because the lowercased entries will
become unavailable when $wgCapitalLinks is turned from false to true.

I don't want to mail Taco with the change request until after EuroTeX
2012 --- he is probably up to his ears in conference preparations, and
this is not urgent.

Cheers,
Sietse

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> did someone, by any chance, already make that change?
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
>> Hello, all,
>>
>> The wiki currently has $wgCapitalLinks = false; meaning that if one
>> wishes to link to e.g. [[Columns]] inside a sentence one must write
>> "See the [[Columns|columns]] article." And if one links to another
>> article, one must remember whether its title is lowercase, Titlecase,
>> or if it doesn't matter because a redirect exists.
>>
>> Proposal:
>> I propose we set
>> $wgCapitalLinks = true;
>> $wgCapitalLinkOverrides[ NS_FILE ] = false;
>> This will make writing a link as [[Article]] or [[article]] both
>> correct, but retain case sensitivity in the rest of the article title.
>> In the file namespace, however, case sensitivity will be retained for
>> the entire name, so that people won't have to download e.g.
>> "T-lilypond.tex".
>
> The setting was changed from true to false in past on purpose. I found
> it very annoying that all the words were capitalized, even if there
> was no reason to capitalized them. Filenames (like
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cont-tmf.zip,
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/First-setup.sh) are not the only cases.
> "write18" is another one etc.
>
> Even if you change that setting, you still have no idea whether a page
> is "Font Tools" or "Font tools" or "font tools". You can make a link
> to [[font tools]] or [[headers and footers]] inside your sentence, but
> that still won't help you to get to
>     http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Font_Tools
>     http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Headers_and_Footers
> and most article names are actually very hard to guess, and in
> contrast to wikipedia, the ConTeXt wiki hardly covers any substantial
> amount of common words or phrases.
>
>> Motivation below. Comments, agreement, disagreement welcome.
>
> Personally I'm against that change.
>
>> Motivation:
>> Redirects can (and do) solve this, and so can changing the link, but
>> that is busywork that nobody should have to do.
>
> I agree, but having filenames capitalized is even more silly.
>
>> * article titles will consistently be displayed in Titlecase
>
> That is not always desired.
>
>> * for titles that should start in lowercase, such as [[texexec]] or
>> [[first-setup]], we'll need to add e.g. {{DISPLAYTITLE:texexec}}.
>
> That partially compensates, but ...
>
> Mojca
>
> PS: can anyone please explain me what's with
>     http://wiki.contextgarden.net/First-setup.sh
> it's almost "an infinite chain" of redirects ... The real page,
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/First-setup, is the one that actually
> makes least sense to me.
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