* Code in contextref-env.tex
@ 2012-08-22 20:14 john Culleton
2012-08-22 20:18 ` Aditya Mahajan
2012-08-22 21:02 ` Sietse Brouwer
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From: john Culleton @ 2012-08-22 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In the file contextref-env.tex I find code like the following:
\setupsectionblock[\v!frontpart] [\c!page=\v!yes]
\setupsectionblock[\v!bodypart] [\c!page=\v!yes]
\setupsectionblock[\v!appendix] [\c!page=\v!yes]
\setupsectionblock[\v!frontpart] [\c!before=,\c!after=]
I have no idea what the sequences like "\v!"and "\c!" etc. mean.
Are they references to modes?
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* Re: Code in contextref-env.tex
2012-08-22 20:14 Code in contextref-env.tex john Culleton
@ 2012-08-22 20:18 ` Aditya Mahajan
2012-08-22 21:02 ` Sietse Brouwer
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-08-22 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012, john Culleton wrote:
> In the file contextref-env.tex I find code like the following:
>
> \setupsectionblock[\v!frontpart] [\c!page=\v!yes]
> \setupsectionblock[\v!bodypart] [\c!page=\v!yes]
> \setupsectionblock[\v!appendix] [\c!page=\v!yes]
> \setupsectionblock[\v!frontpart] [\c!before=,\c!after=]
>
> I have no idea what the sequences like "\v!"and "\c!" etc. mean.
> Are they references to modes?
Search for multi-lingual on this page:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Key_Value_Assignments
Aditya
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* Re: Code in contextref-env.tex
2012-08-22 20:14 Code in contextref-env.tex john Culleton
2012-08-22 20:18 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2012-08-22 21:02 ` Sietse Brouwer
2012-08-22 21:21 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Sietse Brouwer @ 2012-08-22 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> I have no idea what the sequences like "\v!"and "\c!" etc. mean.
> Are they references to modes?
I asked much the same question on tex.stackexchange.com two months
ago, except mine was not so nice and focused.
Aditya gave a very nice explanation of what the letters do; clearer
than the one on the wiki, I thought. Here's a link straight to his
answer:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/58716/2229
They are used as language-agnostic forms.
Using ConTeXt's English format, you'd type \startmarginblock
Using ConTeXt's French format, you'd type \demarreblocmarge
So to accomodate both, we define variables
\s!start --> start or demarre, and
\e!marginblock --> marginblock or blocmarge,
depending on the language, and then we tell TeX we want to run the
command named with the string
\s!start\e!marginblock --> startmarginblock or demarreblocmarge.
(Example not entirely accurate, I believe the variable for
startmarginblock is define holisticaly. But you get my point.)
Example of the need for the letter codes, paraphrased from mult-ini.mkiv:
Where English uses 'left', in Dutch one finds both 'links' for '(on)
the left' and 'linker' for 'the left one'. Hence the letter codes, so
we can have
\v!left --> links and
\c!left --> linker.
\c! is for keywords
\v! is for value names
\s! is for system bits
\e! is for elements
Hope this helps you in reading the sources!
Cheers,
Sietse
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* Re: Code in contextref-env.tex
2012-08-22 21:02 ` Sietse Brouwer
@ 2012-08-22 21:21 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-08-22 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 22-8-2012 23:02, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
>> I have no idea what the sequences like "\v!"and "\c!" etc. mean.
>> Are they references to modes?
>
> I asked much the same question on tex.stackexchange.com two months
> ago, except mine was not so nice and focused.
> Aditya gave a very nice explanation of what the letters do; clearer
> than the one on the wiki, I thought. Here's a link straight to his
> answer:
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/58716/2229
>
> They are used as language-agnostic forms.
> Using ConTeXt's English format, you'd type \startmarginblock
> Using ConTeXt's French format, you'd type \demarreblocmarge
> So to accomodate both, we define variables
> \s!start --> start or demarre, and
> \e!marginblock --> marginblock or blocmarge,
> depending on the language, and then we tell TeX we want to run the
> command named with the string
> \s!start\e!marginblock --> startmarginblock or demarreblocmarge.
> (Example not entirely accurate, I believe the variable for
> startmarginblock is define holisticaly. But you get my point.)
>
> Example of the need for the letter codes, paraphrased from mult-ini.mkiv:
> Where English uses 'left', in Dutch one finds both 'links' for '(on)
> the left' and 'linker' for 'the left one'. Hence the letter codes, so
> we can have
> \v!left --> links and
> \c!left --> linker.
>
> \c! is for keywords
> \v! is for value names
> \s! is for system bits
> \e! is for elements
>
> Hope this helps you in reading the sources!
In practice users don't have to use that convention in their files,
unless they are meant to be multilingual.
Btw, there is a nice story behind this:
- left = 4 tokens
- \c!left = 1 token
so, when context grew harder than tex's string space (we're talking
emtex times) it was also a way to save memory. To some extend it's also
faster (less tokens to pass as argument) but at the same time there is a
penalty of expanding the 1 into 4. So, in a single lingual interface
there is not much gain. Some of the 'struggles with too small engines'
has been removed in mkiv as nowadays we have no such constraints.
When I introduced the \c! and \v! prefixes context was still dutch and
when there came interest from abroad, it had the nice side effect that I
could make an (first german, later also english) interface in just a
couple of hours (context was smaller at that time). The first module to
actually be multilingual was 'ppchtex'.
Hans
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