From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83255 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sietse Brouwer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Overriding pdfview Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:46:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20130627194330.GB30604@darjiling> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372376848 7971 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2013 23:47:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:47:28 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jun 28 01:47:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsLuU-0003My-LM for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A3210217; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DdQmgK+ixWlM; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E09101E6; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07943101E6 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JUU2i+ixvEZc for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2F3101E5 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ee0-x22c.google.com (mail-ee0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22c]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r5RNl9ZI030111 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:47:09 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id c13so713867eek.3 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:47:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=tQU7E5A4ni+FnCqFv3Ki8Lbz0wn5afXeuRqBmeFRqeo=; b=gBxVnOTNwNFQFXRPzXLzYmbGXiRf7g2RyvS7rBX2frZCHHEA5yiunfAbutqS7JL2BM VXJ32oBn8YLd/vQ1NzuQ02aqRq/P111q46hZyYdeawSrNiRLvoclHSIF5DvmaUezgsOv RPexTLIGDmOJC842Pbq0ln5JhF3s9qbPCFuJYIOiIWJbPdzAgOmoC8FNozTvvElZkx+Y K1ywdjz5kCFJB7eRoW8hJBsx+fk6vY26LtSGXftGsphWucXZjAPsA9+hlKy1wg6c8N4p t+TSM4eem9Z3nteco4BCxFo+24/FQBA2Z1hM7e9DcYGX9JsqnP2Ss2kSp+gdhFKtOuwN 6cBA== X-Received: by 10.14.209.197 with SMTP id s45mr11162264eeo.108.1372376829342; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.85.143 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:46:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:4013:c00::22c; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RJRzL9z2 - d7e030230d10 - 20130628 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83255 Archived-At: A summary of things people have said in this thread. NB: everything is paraphrased, so blame me if anything seems overly terse in tone. ---- Bill doesn't have or want SumatraPDF Hans made SumatraPDF the default because it has lots of nice properties that Acrobat doesn't have Luigi thinks maybe mupdf is the right candidate (evince and okular are OK, xpdf doesn't work under 64bit, linux acrobat is old) Siep uses qpdfview, perhaps? Suggests it Bill uses Calibre, personally (and he thinks it would also be bad if ConTeXt assumed everyone uses Calibre) Bill likes the idea of bundling a PDF reader with ConTeXt Hwitloc doesn't use Acrobat at all Luigi mentions that Adobe Reader is the reference PDF viewer -- what doesn't work in Adobe Reader might as well not work at all. Hans agrees Reader is the reference, but prefers sumatrapdf or okular for edit/view cycles Sietse thinks ConTeXt should start by using the user's default pdf viewer --- via open / start / xdg-open. It is then up to the user to override this setting for ConTeXt. Hans thinks this has a problem [on Windows?]: there is start myfile.pdf, but no stop myfile.pdf. Which doesn't play well with Adobe Reader, which cannot handle open PDFs being updated. Aditya proposes -- in jest -- to read the user's mailcap file (on Linux, presumably). Pavneet thinks there is merit in this 'read the user's mailcap' jest. Also, he likes evince. Luigi has found Evince sometimes has printing problems with PDFs make by MkIV ---- I'll repeat what I said, though: the PDF reader that is (a) most likely to be installed, and (b) is most logical / least surprising to the user, is: the user's own default PDF viewer. Adobe Reader may be clunky for this purpose, but IMO the user's choice should nonetheless be respected. It is easier, and less aggravating, to look up 'what is a better PDF viewer than Adobe' than 'why does ConTeXt not respect my default PDF viewer setting?' 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