Find all words set into the margin

Find all words set into the margin

["H. Özoguz"]

Am 26.11.2012 18:01, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>> Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or projekt),
>> >where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because of bad
>> >hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual check-up and
>> >corrections!
> \version[temporary]
> prints blocks next to lines that run into the margin.
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/version
> Is that what you're looking for?
>
> --Sietse

Thanks for that! These black blocks are quite useful, but not as 
powerful, as I am looking for.

I am looking for a command, which builds a register of all occurences of 
these blocks. Imagine I am working on a 300-page book, than I have to 
check every single page for these margin-runs (f.e. after changing the 
layout), with these black boxes its much easier, of course, but still a 
mess.

Is there a command like "\showallmarginruns", which gives something like 
this: "Margin runs on p. 34,67,101,145,204,298" - it may use somehow the 
blocks of \version[temporary], that would be perfect for me.

Could I make clear, what I am looking for (sorry for my leck of English)?

Thanks.
Huseyin
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Re: Find all words set into the margin

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:36 AM, "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de> wrote:
> Am 26.11.2012 18:01, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>>>
>>> Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or
>>> projekt),
>>> >where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because of bad
>>> >hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual check-up
>>> > and
>>> >corrections!
>>
>> \version[temporary]
>> prints blocks next to lines that run into the margin.
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/version
>> Is that what you're looking for?
>>
>> --Sietse
>
>
> Thanks for that! These black blocks are quite useful, but not as powerful,
> as I am looking for.
>
> I am looking for a command, which builds a register of all occurences of
> these blocks. Imagine I am working on a 300-page book, than I have to check
> every single page for these margin-runs (f.e. after changing the layout),
> with these black boxes its much easier, of course, but still a mess.
>
> Is there a command like "\showallmarginruns", which gives something like
> this: "Margin runs on p. 34,67,101,145,204,298" - it may use somehow the
> blocks of \version[temporary], that would be perfect for me.
>
> Could I make clear, what I am looking for (sorry for my leck of English)?
Not an answer, but do you have seen the informations of the log ?
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Re: Find all words set into the margin

[Sietse Brouwer]

Huseyin wrote:
>> Is there a command like "\showallmarginruns", which gives something like
>> this: "Margin runs on p. 34,67,101,145,204,298" - it may use somehow the
>> blocks of \version[temporary], that would be perfect for me.
>>
>> Could I make clear, what I am looking for (sorry for my leck of English)?

Yes, that is very clear. Your English is very good. I have no answer,
but some pointers:

* Printing these blocks is done by using the TeX primitive
\overfullrule (setting it to 5pt, specifically).

* Patrick Gundlach wrote a LuaTeX callback that changes the color of
the \overfullrule, but it uses the post_linebreak_filter callback, and
I don't know if the page number information is known yet at that
point.

* The log, like Luigi mentions, reports the source location of
overfull hboxes. This might help you at least a bit in finding the
output page.
Overfull \hbox (15.80962pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--25
\3>modern-designsize-12pt-rm-tf-0--0 par-al-lel, and|

Cheers,
-Sietse

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:23 AM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:36 AM, "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de> wrote:
>> Am 26.11.2012 18:01, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or
>>>> projekt),
>>>> >where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because of bad
>>>> >hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual check-up
>>>> > and
>>>> >corrections!
>>>
>>> \version[temporary]
>>> prints blocks next to lines that run into the margin.
>>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/version
>>> Is that what you're looking for?
>>>
>>> --Sietse
>>
>>
>> Thanks for that! These black blocks are quite useful, but not as powerful,
>> as I am looking for.
>>
>> I am looking for a command, which builds a register of all occurences of
>> these blocks. Imagine I am working on a 300-page book, than I have to check
>> every single page for these margin-runs (f.e. after changing the layout),
>> with these black boxes its much easier, of course, but still a mess.
>>
>> Is there a command like "\showallmarginruns", which gives something like
>> this: "Margin runs on p. 34,67,101,145,204,298" - it may use somehow the
>> blocks of \version[temporary], that would be perfect for me.
>>
>> Could I make clear, what I am looking for (sorry for my leck of English)?
> Not an answer, but do you have seen the informations of the log ?
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Re: Find all words set into the margin

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/27/2012 11:19 AM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:

> * The log, like Luigi mentions, reports the source location of
> overfull hboxes. This might help you at least a bit in finding the
> output page.
> Overfull \hbox (15.80962pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--25
> \3>modern-designsize-12pt-rm-tf-0--0 par-al-lel, and|

i uploaded a beta with some gimmicks

\starttext

     \showjustification

     \showframe

     {\notragged    \input ward \blank}
     {\raggedright  \input ward \blank}
     {\raggedleft   \input ward \blank}
     {\raggedcenter \input ward \blank}

     {\hsize1cm \notragged x x xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\par} \blank

     \framed[width=10cm,align=middle]{test}

\stoptext

blue: natural width is larger than hsize
green: natural width is smaller than hsize
magenta: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedright)
cyan: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedleft)
yellow: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedcenter)
red: probably bad news

I'm pretty sure that in a year or so I've forgotten about (as I already 
had forgotten about some experimental early luatex code doing something 
similar).

Hans

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Find all words set into the margin

["H. Özoguz"]

Am 27.11.2012 22:39, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
> (just run your docs with \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] and you're
> okay in most cases)
That is not possible, because I want to have very nice word-distances, 
and I want the margin-runs to be there, to correct them myselve 
manually. So for now, I will go through every single page, and look for 
black boxes (or in your gimmick red boxes).

Thanks.
Huseyin
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Find all words set into the margin

["H. Özoguz"]

Am 27.11.2012 18:37, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
> blue: natural width is larger than hsize
> green: natural width is smaller than hsize
> magenta: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedright)
> cyan: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedleft)
> yellow: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedcenter)
> red: probably bad news
>
> I'm pretty sure that in a year or so I've forgotten about (as I already
> had forgotten about some experimental early luatex code doing something
> similar).
Thanks, thats quite nice. Is it pirincipal possible to programm this 
macro I am looking for, which lists all "reds" (in your gimmick) in a 
TOC with pagenumbers? (I am not asking you to do that, just curious, 
maybe I want to programm some macro myself one day, not only getting 
gifts from you and all other programmers :))

Huseyin
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Re: Find all words set into the margin

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/27/2012 8:22 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> Am 27.11.2012 18:37, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>> blue: natural width is larger than hsize
>> green: natural width is smaller than hsize
>> magenta: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedright)
>> cyan: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedleft)
>> yellow: natural width is smaller than hsize (raggedcenter)
>> red: probably bad news
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that in a year or so I've forgotten about (as I already
>> had forgotten about some experimental early luatex code doing something
>> similar).
> Thanks, thats quite nice. Is it pirincipal possible to programm this
> macro I am looking for, which lists all "reds" (in your gimmick) in a
> TOC with pagenumbers? (I am not asking you to do that, just curious,
> maybe I want to programm some macro myself one day, not only getting
> gifts from you and all other programmers :))

sure that's possible but not now

(just run your docs with \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch] and you're 
okay in most cases)

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Find all words set into the margin

["H. Özoguz"]

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I use

\definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality,protrusion=quality]

\setupalign[hz,hanging]

\usetypescript[times]

\setupbodyfont[times,11pt]


\setuptolerance[verystrict]


Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or 
projekt), where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because of 
bad hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual 
check-up and corrections!


Thanks.
Huseyin



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Re: Find all words set into the margin

[Sietse Brouwer]

"H. Özoguz" wrote:

> Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or projekt),
> where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because of bad
> hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual check-up and
> corrections!

\version[temporary]
prints blocks next to lines that run into the margin.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/version
Is that what you're looking for?

--Sietse
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Re: Find all words set into the margin

[john Culleton]

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:52:52 +0100
"H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de> wrote:

> I use
> 
> \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality,protrusion=quality]
> 
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
> 
> \usetypescript[times]
> 
> \setupbodyfont[times,11pt]
> 
> 
> \setuptolerance[verystrict]
> 
> 
> Is there a command or a macro to find all occurences in a file (or 
> projekt), where some word is printed into the margin? (Maybe because
> of bad hyphenation or something else.) - Would be perfect for manual 
> check-up and corrections!
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> Huseyin
> 
> 
You could try setting \overfullrule=5pt
This is an original TeX primitive. Plain TeX sets it at 5pt. You can
then scan pages looking for a black rectangle in the right margin. I
cannot determine which code to search for in e.g., grep but perhaps you
can. 

I just tested it and \overfillrule  works with MKIV context if it is
set for some value other than zero. 


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